I just did a little comparison shopping. I only need 4 items , soaping oils and lye. Even with BB's sale, my total cost was lower at NG. Including shipping...and I am on the west coast! Shipping from BB was $14, from NG was $19. So you can see how much lower each item was at NG. I love BB, but their prices have gotten so high. Just thought I'd throw this out there.