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  2. Moonstar

    Let’s talk about temps

    Have you guys tried Cocopara , I think thats what its called ? I saw this wax on Candles & Supplies.
  3. Moonstar

    Let’s talk about temps

    WOW !!! Thanks so much for taking the time . Really great information even though I didn't understand a lot of it lol ! Thanks again
  4. Forrest

    Let’s talk about temps

    I've had both of those problems recently. I've changed my process to increase the blending temp, keep the FO from being too cold, and stir longer.
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  6. I use that FO in the same wax and 4 others without that appearance. Strike that. I use same name by different manufacturer. I remember seeing another pic just like that one recently. Something else is going on. What is the lot # of the wax? What FO load? how long are you stirring, etc. what are you stirring with? Is your scale accurate? is your thermometer accurate? are you heating over a double boiler? we need more info.
  7. Moonstar

    SIMPLY DIVINE CHERRY PIE BBW TYPE

    anyone ???
  8. TallTayl

    Main Recipes?

    Soapers Choice
  9. TallTayl

    Let’s talk about temps

    Thanks kerven. I had hoped you would share some of the research you’ve completed. Seems that each time I see candles that did not turn out (namely syneresis in commercially popular wax) it comes down to one of two things, temps or blending, sometimes a combo of both. When I read instructions on FB groups to add the FO at flashpoint it makes me sad and anxious at the same time. Lower FP FO won’t combine properly and higher FP FO raises waxes to temps higher than manufacturers recommend. Only manufacruters know how their product is engineered. ive written before how rate of cooling changes the game. A pot of wax on a bench in a 95*f garage left to cool to pouring temp is not going to look the same as one poured in a 60* basement, of course. But tools like a fan really can close the gap. the bottom fan technique has worked very well for my operation. I can get pots of wax (and shampoo, conditioner, lotion, etc) into pouring temp range quickly and repeatably. They must be stirred to clear the edges of the pots, plus stirring cools things more quickly and evenly. Soy, beeswax, etc. blends look shiny and smooth when made this way and tend to not frost or morph nearly as much as those allowed to cool slowly. The stirring combined with rapid cool somewhat mimics commercial votation which is how margarine and some veg oils are commercially prepared. It all made sense once I gave it a try. It solved a LOT of my soy problems immediately.
  10. Moonstar

    C&S Gingerbread Applesauce

    Yeah, its a donut scent. Ive heard positive reviews in other groups .
  11. I can't believe I forgot to post this one! I finished sculpting him the day after the spooky one. It weighs in at just about 1.5 oz. Gotta love the beeswax! I'm currently working on some new sculpts; hopefully they turn out!
  12. Forrest

    Let’s talk about temps

    Wow! great info, I'll need to read it again after I finish my coffee.
  13. ShelleyF

    C&S Gingerbread Applesauce

    No I haven't. You would think I would have by now. I buy a lot of destashes. What is it? A doughnut kind?
  14. SpaceDog35

    Main Recipes?

    Coconut Oil - 270 gr. | 9.52 oz. | 30% Olive Oil - 360 gr. | 12.7 oz. | 40% Castor Oil - 45 gr. | 1.59 oz. | 5% Palm Oil** - 225 gr. | 7.94 oz. | 25% Distilled Water - 342gr. | 12.06 oz. Lye - 129.15 gr. | 4.6 oz. Water as % of Oils = 38 Super Fat/Discount = 5% Found this one on the web and it's one of my favourites. Also, interested in ingredients purchasing. Any online shops recommendations? I have a nice place to geet Soap Bases , but just to compare.
  15. Marleigha

    I s o Island Baby fo

    Hi @ScentedPleasurez unfortunately I do not know where you can get Island Baby from. However, if you can give me the notes I will try my best to help. Worse case scenario, PFO will dupe anything you send them with a small minimum. Lmk
  16. Wait, what... The FO blended in smoothly at a lower temp but not at the higher temp? What FO was that? What was the flash point? Maybe there is something to that whole flash point method of adding FO... or maybe there's some bizarre polymerization going on. Otherwise, I can't wrap my head around that one.
  17. Kerven

    Retail Candle Reviews

    By typical retail outlet do you mean places that sell their own brand or any place that sells candles? If the latter... DW Homes Tobacco Noir 4oz Got it because of the scent. $2.99 Appears to be a paraffin, burns like a paraffin, but it's surprisingly creamy and off-white in color like a soy. Doesn't look like a "plastic" paraffin at all. I'm certain it's primarily paraffin with a good dose of additives. Although, come to think of it, it does resemble and burn similar to a coconut wax, but AFAIK DW Homes doesn't use coconut wax. Packaging is nice, but the FO is what sold it. The cold throw is so good I don't bother lighting it anymore, just sit it nearby and let it do its work. Who needs a renuzit when you have one of these. Not the greatest burn ever. Flame too large and too hot, made the glass very hot. Smoked a little. Extinguishing caused a peculiar sweet, "powdery" soot scent if that makes any sense. Mushroomed horribly, and wick broke when trying to trim. I need to find a lab that'll take a wax sample and dupe the FO. Don't care about the wax, just want that FO. I like it that much. For the price, it's pretty good, maybe even a steal compared to high end 4oz candles! I tried their Teakwood Myrrh as well and, while not as strong a scent as the Tobacco Noir, it's nice.
  18. ScentedPleasurez

    I s o Island Baby fo

    This was not a custom blend my mom ordered it years ago and it smelled so good. I only have a small sample of the scent in wax and have been searching for it online but can't find it. She doesn't remember where she ordered it from. To me it smells like loves baby soft with coconut and papaya maybe?? Has anyone heard of this fo ?
  19. ScentedPleasurez

    Retail Candle Reviews

    The best candle that I have found retail has got to be colonial candles. I loved the oval container. They are 22 oz and are $25 normally. I bought it because it was on clearance and the container. Melon was the one that I picked up and while it didn't carry through the house it did the entire upstairs. Pretty sure they are paraffin wax. They burned great, however halfway down the container was extremely hot, and by the time it was finished it was a decent amount of sooting which I'm sure some came from me tilting to blow out. Lol. I make no weekly trips to Wal-Mart just to see the candle section. I take notes on what's empty on their shelves lol. Picked up a few melts to test since so many have been doing reviews on YouTube with them..
  20. Kerven

    Let’s talk about temps

    *chime* The effects of temperature on waxes is a loaded topic. Not sure where to begin... or end. I'll skim the surfaces a little. IMO, it mostly affects crystal formation, but that's also tied to additives, which makes those important as well. Additives run the gamut. You've got congealers and rheology adjusters, crystal modifiers, thermal stabilizers, antifoaming agents and surfactants, preservatives (antioxidants), opacifiers, hardeners, strengtheners, elastomers and polymers in general, UV/color stabilizers, a plethora of fatty acids, esters, glycerides... I've even seen patents for candles that use resins and polyamides (more polymers). They all have a variety of melt points, molecular weights, and nifty uses. Almost all should be nonpolar because soy waxes are nonpolar, so they'll blend well... assuming they're compatible to begin with. Not taking additives into account, temperature mostly affects crystal formation. For example, pouring palm wax at a high temperature and insulating it for a slow cool down allows for the growth of larger crystals, which gives palm waxes their distinctive textures. That's sort of a two-sided issue, however, as longer cool downs could result in the outside setting up before the center, causing the center to contract as it cools and create cavernous voids, as seen with palm waxes (poke those holes or do the flip), or craters, as seen with soy waxes. Palm waxes are more prone to the cavities because the surface tends to set up quicker than the surfaces of softer, lower melt point soy waxes, which are prone to cratering. A rapid cool down could shock the wax and force the FO and any softer components out, but a gradual cool down at room temperature (especially when poured hot) could cause the same problems as an extended cool down to a lesser degree. Each wax seems to have a happy zone when it comes to the speed of cooling, although, I think most big manufacturers use fans on the bottoms to encourage cooling from the bottom up... or something along those lines (?). An interesting phenomennon with soy waxes are the ugly melt pools after they've cooled. Is it polymerization or cool down temps? A little of both, I'd say. Then, you have the fatty acid profiles of the waxes themselves, which are big ol' trade secrets. Do the manufacturers remove the unsaturated fats for a harder wax? To what degree is it hydrogenated/transesterified? Palm oil, for example, comes in different "flavors". You've got your plain palm oil, hydrogenated palm oil, no-stir (some unsaturated fats removed) palm oil... What does temperature have to do with all that? Fatty acids, esters, and such have differing melt/congeal temps. Soo... About manufacturers' temperature instructions. I take them with a grain of salt. We already know that ambient environmental variables can influence what temps we pour at. We also know that some waxes respond better to certain pouring temps than others. I can't for the life of me use palm wax as an additive in low melt point blends because it rapidly crystallizes before my eyes once the blend gets down to 135F, where it separates out if stirred. Some people (not me) have amazing success with pouring soy waxes at or below 100F. Manufacturers, I presume, base their instructions either on their own set of environmental factors or an average. To the careful and well informed eye, the recommended temperatures could give away the absence of certain additives and narrow the list of possibilities. For example, if the directions say to melt to 150F, the wax is certain to not contain high melt point castor wax flakes, BHT, and maybe microcrystalline wax (that one would be cutting it close). But if directions say to melt to 200F, there very well could be a high melt point additive in it that requires such a high heat. When it comes to graininess, curdling, and such, I think that's mostly tied to the fatty acid profile. Shea butter turning grainy is a perfect example. You can stir and try to keep things evenly distributed as it cools, but that's not always a viable option. For example, when I used palm wax as an additive (mentioned above) with coconut oil, once it reached 135F, any stirring caused the palm wax to immediately crystallize, forming a slushy mass on the surface of the coconut oil which clung to my stirring spatula. After that happened, I melted it down again and tried pouring hot, only to find out that the palm still crystallized first and left a pool of coconut oil at the surface, which eventually cooled down and contracted into extensive caverns. Pouring closer to 140F gave better results but ultimately the wax needed a "middle ground" ingredient to bridge the gap in melt points and add a little elasticity. That is an extreme example, however. For common pre-formulated waxes such as C3 and AAK soys, stirring is beneficial, especially after FO and dye have been added, but probably not as essential as with more sensitive waxes. That's not to say you shouldn't stir anyway but chances are the wax already has something keeping it well blended. Nevertheless, stirring while cooling down to pour temp doesn't hurt. If anything, it'll help. As for adding FO at lower temperatures, well, that goes back to higher melt point components creating the crystalline structure that binds/traps the oils. It also has a bit to do with how fast those crystals grow. We know that soy wax can continue doing that for some time after cooling off (see: curing and frosting). Some waxes do it immediately. So, with a wax like palm, it's probably not a good idea to add it close to the congeal/melt point but palm doesn't hold much FO to begin with. With soy, it's a bit iffy; some might handle it well while others will spit it out. AFAIK, candle FO's are formulated with solvents/diluents that are wax compatible, so there shouldn't be too much issue with the FO not blending in. The issue is more often physical; the FO isn't being "trapped" in the crystalline structure. Chances are, if the candle is leaking FO, it's probably going to spit out coconut oil as well if you used it as an additive... unless you have a weird FO that has something odd (like an incompatible fragrance components (side note: some fragrance components are made into solutions for ease of use or to modify strength, and some of the solvents/diluents used for that purpose may not be compatible), polar components, DPG, or alcohols) in it that the particular candle wax doesn't like. That's my take on it, anyway.
  21. Marleigha

    Looking For a Donut Fragrance Oil

    Looks like we were typing very close to the same time. 😁 I'm so sorry to hear that you don't really care for it OOB. Maybe once you test it in wax or maybe even in some oil straight in your warmer it will thrive. I hope for your sake it does. 9 times out of 10, I usually just buy the pound bottles also. Well unless they are having a sample sale/ half off 1oz bottles. Do you use paraffin, soy or parasoy? How did you like the Honey? Did you get any others? Lmk
  22. Marleigha

    Looking For a Donut Fragrance Oil

    Hi Moonstar! Sorry for the delay in my reply. I honestly think out of all of them I like the LS Sugared Cronut & FB Cinnamon Sugared Doughnut. However it depends on what exactly your looking for in a Donut FO. The LS SC smells very yeasty and......... Ya know what let me go smell it! Ohhh k!!!! Ya know what? The SC actually smells so much like an elephant ear from the county fair to me! Or maybe even a Cinnamon Sugar churro! I really like it OOB & I also tested it in some oils in my kitchen warmer and it throws nicely in my home! The CSD from FB is also very nice just less yeasty, yet a different smell all together. Oh yay! I bet the gingerbread applesauce cake is going to be nice! I'm also ISO a good honey so please keep me posted on both. In regards to the ZB from FB it is a nice ZB..... It actually smells very similar to the one from NG. Both are nice. The one from ICS is a definitely more of a spicy ZB. I still buy from all 3 places it just depends on who what place I need the most FO's from. Hmmm.... Carrot Cake! 🤔 I had heard good things about the Carrot Cake from LS, so when I placed my order from their 1/2 off sample sale I ordered a few pounds as well as several 1 oz bottles. I got 2 of all of the ones I heard good things about. Sadly, I wasn't really impressed with theirs after all. So I moved on and placed an order with FB and ordered their Peak Type Carrot Cake and while it's decent it lacks spice. And I like the spice kick to carrot cake. The best one I have used to date is from Millcreek. Theirs was heavy on the spice, but a nice strong CC FO. Goodness.... I'm sorry I'm just rambling huh? 😂 Anyways.... HTH! And again so sorry for the delay in my response! 😇
  23. Moonstar

    Retail Candle Reviews

    I bought some BBW 3 wick candles . Marshmallow Fireside Sweater Weather Campfire Coffee $12.99 each ( sale price ) wax type idk ?? First impression of burn was pretty good . Well the Sweater weather burned the hottest out of all of them . The more it burned there was something I wasn't crazy about but Ct was awesome! i love the 3 wicks and I'm a sucker for their labels & the names they choose . Marshmallow Fireside is my favorite!!!!!
  24. Moonstar

    Looking For a Donut Fragrance Oil

    Well OOB it's not as amazing as I hoped for . I'll try it in wax and might like it better. I hope so because I could a pound of it lol
  25. I've never used Wellington before and heard the BBW type Simply Devine Cherry 🍒 Pie is good . Anyone tried this one before? https://www.wellingtonfragrance.com/Simply-Divine-Cherry-Pie-BBW-Type-Fragrance-Oil-P2337.aspx
  26. Moonstar

    Best Apple Cinnamon?

    Doesn't Indianna have a Baked Apple ? Its always on the best seller list.
  27. Moonstar

    C&S Gingerbread Applesauce

    LOL ! Yeah , the Gingerbread Applesauce wasn't too impressed with Have you by chance tried Crounut from Lonestar ?
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