Arch I have not used the fo's mentioned, but I have used American Soy Organics and they are great. A lot of the fo's are original enchanted lites. Some of my favs are Lemon cheesecake, pina colada, fruit slices, orange (EL originals). Driftwood and coconut, and blue sage and sea salt, both very good. I think these are ASO's There should be lots of old threads about EL if you care to look.