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I really hope it was the wrong wax sent-going through all my supplies I noticed I’m getting low and was going to order some more 🤦‍♀️ I don’t use it often but love it for my blend I use for votives and need to make some more soon If the hardest paraffin pillar wax out there has changed as well I’m going to cry …or scream 😂

Hello and welcome lilfirecracker (love the name) I have never used 4794 before, not sure I have even heard of it - lol but then again I’m not super well versed in paraffin - soy and coco girl over here 👋 but I can tell you I’ve had some soy experiments turn out like that as well I looked it up and it says it’s a votive blend so I’m shocked they are looking like that- maybe a second pour is needed 🤷‍♀️ I assume you followed the heat and pour temps…sorry I can’t be of any help there but the 4625 I do use occasionally blended with a parasoy for melts and I love it- I think you will be very impressed with it overall - it takes color well, when I do color, and the throw is superb and lasts a good long time I used to use lone star fo as well back in 2008 when I started all this and imo the quality just isn’t there- in all fairness I have not tried them in many years but back then they seemed watery if that makes any sense Maybe try some other suppliers for FO, one of my go to places is wsp and candlescience has some good ones and so does brambleberry ….but I have been reading about all this reformulation and reports that so many fragrance oils are just not the same any more - everything seems to be different and inconsistent anymore including the waxes 4630 is a nice wax also - maybe that will help the 4794 by blending at maybe 25% being a container wax I took a long hiatus from selling but have been playing here and there in the background with all the coconut waxes and I have a crap ton of fragrance so I haven’t purchased much in the last couple of years- I’m kinda feeling like a fish out of water with all these changes to everything and new products on the market 🤷‍♀️ hopefully a seasoned paraffin person can give you more insight! Again- welcome

Hey kerven….how did this go for you with the 486 and coco 83? I tried it at 25% but did not like how crazy the flames got even with smaller wicks I think the 486 has beeswax in it according to a FB group mod I tried the 487 and love that one so much better Curious what you thought

How is the soymax working out Goldie? I have been cleaning my candle crap out ….hasn’t been done fully in over 10 years and I found a small bag of soy max from aso …..must of thought I was going to try it on top of the Midwest I still have is it a keeper or does it belong in my get rid of pile? Lol

And the attack campaign had nothing to do with toxicity of palm like the paraffin attack correct? It was all about the tree hugging save the rainforest protests dont get me wrong I care about the environment very much but palm is supposed to be responsibly sourced now….well thats what they say anyways….well let’s see here 🤔 suppliers statements….can we trust them anymore 🤷‍♀️🙈🤦‍♀️😂🥺😵‍💫

When you find something good these days you almost need to buy it by the pallets same lot if possible I don’t candle make to sell anymore I candle make to test- test- test because by the time I have a winner I can’t replicate it if I don’t have the exact same material

Put on your label you didn’t chop a rainforest down 😂 depending on your container you shouldn’t have to do a repour with palm if you learn the flip method for air pockets - it’s scary at first but you learn when it’s too early….ask me how I know the limited palm experience I have is excellent throw with either csn or rrd wicks- now the rrd are directional so you have to pay attention when wicking from a spool- ask me how I know that 😂 I’m burning 2 palm pillars right now and they are under wicked but there is no getting these wicks out now- they are several years old, that wick is stuck with the hardness of palm but I’m smelling them nice and don’t have to worry about a blow out 🤷‍♀️😂 I know csn is no longer available but if you have an interest in pillars at all or tall 3” diameter jars I have a ton of csn 11 to sell off

Okay this is one my absolute favorites of all time -I stocked up before the announcement of changing over to all Phthalate free- has it changed that much really?….. back in the day Moonworks pinion pine was exactly the same to my nose, not sure if PFO Carries that one since the buyout but I will have to check

This exactly! I have been on hiatus since the changes in soy I don’t even know many years ago now….went to coco and LOVED what I came up with all excited to start selling again to find out that particular coco doesn’t exist anymore 🤷‍♀️ ok….back to another coco and some apricot and some soy blends - many additives and every single time I get something I like or even love it comes in different next time around All these pre-sales that went on with this covid issue I stocked up - but it’s not enough to run with for more than a year or 2 and even less if I do start selling again…. it totally blows, I feel the pain to If 1 single supplier could accomplish consistency in what they sell it would be a miracle - I’ve often wondered about candlewic blends seeing they make their own and the sad thing is I bought them all when soy took a crap but then fell in love with easy beads and gave all that CW away 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Never tested or tried it I was so excited when cal candle announced pre sale of coconut beads limit 2 cases…..only to be shocked once again- this stuff is absolutely NOTHING like the original easy beads….it’s awful, yes I made it work in a couple different blends but it’s disgusting to work with, serious sink holes no matter the temp you pour and I find it kinda odd they haven’t ever offered this form again that I’m aware of…🤷‍♀️ If your a coco person definitely look into this s&p 487 to blend - like TT said Midwest and bees is a nice blend also of you like soy and don’t mind a long cure time palms seem to be the most consistent out there imo ….I’m thinking about just trying it straight up again if I can get around the wicking issues in slightly wider jars that I have (palm likes tall and skinny) ….another issue that is never ending - finding glass in stock apricot had been pretty consistent in my tests except I think I just read somewhere on here that is now coming in different Palm stearic- beeswax- 487- universal soy additive can all be your friend right now to help slap some waxes into decent behavior along with wicking completely different from what you would normally think

Elements toasted marshmallow is very good- I don’t use it often not liking sweet/food scents much and I wish I could tell you they were the same but I’m not sure on that either ….it’s been a long time since I tried the ah/re version, I settled on elements for some reason

Hey now- those are my people your calling snobs thermometer IS essential - sure some things you can get a feel for and gauge like when to pour but your not doing yourself any favors not using one to heat your wax and adding the fragrance oil - it has nothing to do with thinking “highly” of ourselves and everything to do with making a proper candle that is safe 🙄🤦‍♀️

F…..FFFF……F!!! how hard is it for 1 supplier to just be consistent and transparent!

Ummmm I don’t like hearing this - where have you bought your apricot? I stocked up when it was impossible to get and pre-sales were going on - the majority of mine came from hive and honey I haven’t been following any threads on coconut or apricot waxes lately so am I understanding there is another issue here? I had to give up 415 years ago because of this same Crap and started a blend with coco beads and then that went to Crap and then you couldn’t get those original beads anymore and I started playing with apricot blends …..if this is going to be an issue when I run out I’m going to scream - ceda serica is the the only one affected? 😵‍💫😡😵‍💫

I suggest not NG….I couldn’t get the stench out of my house for weeks - it was a long time ago but it was awful 🙈🙈

Do that many people use mica to color wax? I haven’t heard about that other than maybe to dust them for a little sparkle or shine but then again I have been living in a cave taking a very long hiatus from wax….trying to get back going again but for what it’s worth I would go with liquid dye as TT suggested

Ya if your not pouring a ton and just trying to get a little out for blends these kind of tops will probably work you 👍

It won’t let me paste the link but another place to check out that I have not personally used but heard for most suppliers bottles are Midwest bottles with this product ID Our Price: $0.19 Compared at: $0.30 You Save: $0.11 Product ID : bdc24-410blk-tw3 Manufacturer: MPCH

I would look on WSP - pricey yes but worth every penny of it IMO 98% of the time I have not been let down on how realistic they are - their tomato plant is dead on along with most herbs and woods I use for the geranium I love rose geranium at AH/RE ginger elements has a wonderful ginger lime I haven’t found a rain yet I like - most are to floral but wsp black salt and cypress is a very nice water scent

Looks great Candybee! Love the whole mermaid and treasure box theme you got going on 👍

Wow- a lot has changed since 2014 that was certainly has changed- it’s nothing like it was....but typically the 10 and 12 worked in that jar and wax now keep In mind when the wax changed a few years back those sizes were torches and I honestly haven’t touched 415 in a few years so use caution and I would start with a 8 and see

This exactly!!! I thought I was going crazy- I use colored jars so didn’t notice the frost but the cavities are unreal - the stench is unreal- it stays cloudy at 200* and I’m wicking up up up I saw when cooling a few start to sink at the wick so I heat gunned right away - did it again after almost set - lit it a few days later as all appeared ok and I hit the mother load of cavities!!

I haven’t been around on here much lately, life got busy with wedding planning for my daughter that ended up being postponed until this December (thank you Covid), work stuff getting crazy with the pandemic (again, thank you covid) and all the new rules and guidelines to keep our employees and our customers safe and a house remodel we had to push forward with before covid and it’s still in progress....I just got busy I have not been selling candles for a very long time, since the soy industry went to hell in a handbag but I have still been enjoying making candles for myself and family, testing waxes and relearning everything I thought I knew over 12 years time in this craft playing with coconut waxes -I had been a soy girl from the very start so it was a whole new world for me with fail after fail until I finally got it together! Thought I was ready to plunge forward and start selling again only to find out my wax was gone....poof 💨 just gone! Come to find out it was a manufacturing equipment issue and the Ez beads was actually coconut 83 and comes in 2 other forms- well now 3 forms .....slab- cube and the new beads which are nothing like the old breads and it’s become a serious online bidding war to even get it when suppliers have it in stock I had purchased some cube form and it seems to be okay as far as not completely different from my old original ez beads from candles and supplies and then I heard about the presale cal candle was having on the bead form - I was so excited I did end up getting the cal candle 2 case limit presale, guess I got lucky because it all sold out within minutes and I was so happy to have what I thought was my new beloved wax back .....but boy was I so wrong This stuff is what nightmares are made of - totally not the same in any shape or form, the little pastilles are cute and all but a mess to deal with sticking everywhere and the odor.... 😷 yuck! and it stays cloudy and yellow in the melter no matter the temp and to top it off I never ever ever had sink holes or cavities with this wax and now I’m blessed with multiple ones in every....single....candle....I poured Now to top all that off I have had to ditch many fragrance oils that used to work and now they don’t with the “clean” reformulating and now I’m learning I have to fight for wicks if I need them, stalking suppliers and now some are not even the same anymore because suppliers are trying to make their own or something to that effect....really? It’s a good thing I am a hoarder to a certain extent, I do have enough for awhile and I did stock up my jars along with my toilet paper 🧻😂 and paper towel- and Lysol- and hand sanitizer- and masks! I WILL figure this wax out like I always do but I wanted to pop in and share my frustrations because I can’t be the only one...right? I guess I need to come out of my cave and find out what’s going on in the candle world before all these surprises hit me all at once again- lol So many new waxes I never heard of and so many suppliers changing the wax names so you can’t keep track of what is really what - it’s craZy out there 🙈 I hope everyone is well- healthy- happy- safe and now I’m going to try and catch up on all the threads I’ve missed out on 😂

I came across this thread- That was so much fun who is ready for round 2 with all the new changes AGAIN to coconut 83, ez beads or whatever the suppliers decides to call it?? 😂😂

ummmm....it is totally not the same and it is definitely not burning the same Mine was cloudy yellow in the melt pot, the odor is awful and I thought the little pastilles would be so cool to work with and they are a hot mess - messy messy messy🤣 I am not happy with this situation right now at all- throw is still good but I am having to wick up, well at least in blends I am - I have to be honest I have not tested them straight yet....broke my own rule