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Thank you Steve! So if I do the blend of 6006 and 464 will I need to do a second pour? And in your opinion will this blend work for tarts as well or will the additional soy from the 464 make it too soft? Thank you so much

Hello everyone/anyone- I am new to the forum and candlemaking and need some advice if anyone is willing to give it Can anyone give me some input as to what type of paraffin to blend with GB 464? Or if it is even do-able or worth it? I am so frustrated with the 464 straight- It is supposed to be the highest fragrance load/ hot throwing soy wax out there and its not working out for me! I make alot of tarts with a 464/Eco PB blend and they are pretty good but my question is...will adding paraffin help make tarts AND candles throw stronger? What confuses me is paraffin fragrance loads are so much lower than than the 464 but in reading alot on this forum people say their paraffin candles have wonderful throw:confused: Should I buy a blend like the IGI 6006 or the IGI 4627 (comfort blend)claims to have a 12% fragrance like the 464 on the CS site. But then am I getting into second pours (which will mean more equipment) and wicking issues with blending the 4627 and 464? and I see most paraffin comes in slab form- that seems hard to deal with Help- any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Hi Kandlenutz- If you dont mind my asking... how do you like the 444 vs. the 464? I see you have down at the bottom of your page that you use both. I have been using the 464 and just cant get it to throw strong and its supposed to be the best fragrance load/throwing wax out there! Do you blend paraffin with it? Glad to hear Gingerbread is good- awaiting my order of it along with Blue Spruce!

Hi Kdorfman- frustrating isnt it? I started with 464, switched to CB135 but now am back to 464! It has the potential- some Eco wicks work with my fragrances but alot of them do not so I am testing the CD wicks now- hoefully that is the answer because I do really like this wax but may have to starting blending it with paraffin!

Shewill5- Bummer you are allergic to Angel!! That is my favorite but like I said I cannot get a good burn or strong hot throw with the Eco wicks- even the Eco14!! Let me know how it goes and I am still awaiting my order from Bitter Creek!

TallTayl- Thank you so much for the information- I am going to give it another try tonight, could be that the molds were brand new- hopefully that is all it is because when I melted the chunks after mutilating them getting them out of the molds - the 75/25 blend are so much better and stronger!! Thank you Thank you Thank you

Leslee42 Thank you for the information- I was just using Eco wicks in straight 464 per CS wick recommendation but after alot of research on 464 users I did order CD wicks to try- I use the 8oz. square mason jars for candles and have always used the max fragrance load-12% but maybe that is too much oil for this wax and contributing to my burn problems, but that wouldnt explain why my tarts are weak- so frustrating! Thank you for the site for CD wicks- they are not easy to find without buying in 100 plus. Also you say you use Peak? I tried a few of them and they seemed real weak, if you dont mind sharing the ones you have had success with in the 464? Thanks so much

Thank you for replying IwantItgreen I have tried the tarts with 50/50 PB and 464 and although they do come out of the molds really good the scent throw was not as strong as I am looking for. I started off with just PB and that was even weaker- I like tarts and candles to be super burn your nose and eyes strong! LOL Candlescience is so far one of my favorites for strong oil but I need to find the best wax for tarts- I have not used parrafin at all and do not want to get into second pours and all that- you mentioned parasoy.... would you say that has a better scent throw than soy alone and if so can you recommend a blend or company? Thank You so much!

Hi Swewill 5 I have also heard Candlemakers is good- the only hesitation I had is no scent descriptions- so please let me know how you like them. I just placed an order with Bitter Creek South and I will let you know how I like their scents. Every dime we can save in shipping expense the better! CS is my favorite so far as well- love their scents and the fact that they have a soy rating-I just wish they had more variety. Have you used their Angel? Love this one but in container candles I cannot wick it right- I think the oil is to heavy and I use the 8oz. sq. mason jars so I dont think 2 wicks would work but I am going to try the CD wicks and hope they work!

Hello TallTayl- I tried tarts at a 75/25 blend and they wont come out of the molds without putting in the freezer for a few seconds- do you have problems with this as well? Some have cracks as well. I heated to 185* and added fragrance right after I poured into my pour pot and stirred for a couple of minutes and when pouring into the tart molds (metal) it looked the same as always- starting to set up until the whole mold was filled and reliquified(if that makes sense) and I waited a couple hours and even left one batch over night and they wont come out! Maybe I dont know how to do math-LOL but if your making a 1 lb batch of tarts I figured that is 160z. of wax so I used 4oz of PB and 12oz of 464 tared out in the pour pot. Any input would be greatly appreciated- I just want to have wonderful tarts so that in the long run when I figure it out I can save money by not going back to Yankee $2.00 tarts! I blow through about 3 a day Thanks so much

Thank you TallTayl and Catlover- sorry for the delayed response I was out of town at my daughters Eqestrian State Competition and they won the State Championship- Go Milford! But anyway- I am going to try the 75/25 blend- are you using the PB at 75%? I will go back to the drawing board on container candles with the 464- my CD wicks came in so I will give them a try As far as fragrance companies- I have been using Candle Science, Natures Garden and Lonestar- Have either of you used bitter creek? I have been real happy with CS and so far NG is pretty good- Lonestar has a few good ones but this is getting expensive! Thanks again

Thank you Catlover- I have not cured for a week- 4 to 5 days is all...guess I need more patience. So it sounds like CD wicks might be where its at along with less fragrance and good to know on pour temp- I have been heating to 185 and pouring at 140-145... do you add your fragrance right after heat temp or do you let it cool first? Thank you so much:smiley2:

Thank you for replying- I tried the 464/PB blend as well but at 50/50 blend- so do you use the PB at 75% and if you dont mind my asking at what temp do you pour? I have read that alot of oils will work less using max load which I cannot wrap my brain around! LOL it seems to me the more the better and stronger- I am going to try out your blend with using less fragrance and see where I come out- Thank you so much:smiley2:

I am brand new to the forum and to candlemaking....decided last winter that I was spending to much money on Yankee Candle tarts and little did I know- it was cheaper than trying it myself! but now I am hooked...and determined I started right out with 464 and eco wicks like CS recommended and used the max 12% fragrance per pound (weighed) and my candles when burning were like greasy looking and the wicks would soot making the wax streak with black and the scent throw was not as amazing as the claims no matter what size wick. With the leftover wax I would pour it in tart molds and although I had to pop them in the freezer to get them out the scent throw was amazing- the burn your nose and make your eyes water strong that I DO want. I tried all different sizes of wicks in the candles and gave up and ordered the CB135. With this wax I used the LX wicks and tried the ECO as well and got a much better looking candle and the scent throw was good as well but still not as strong as what I am looking for and the tarts were not as strong. So now I am back to 464 and I made the switch to PB/135 blend for tarts which do look better but they do not throw far and strong! Any suggestions as to how to get this 464 to throw strong and far in a candle would be sooo much appreciated- I have read all the forums on this site and did order CD wicks to try but how do you determine what wick type and size to go with as a starting point? Recommendations for tarts??? what wax has the best results for throwing scent far and strong? Thanks so much

Hello everyone, I am new to the forum and also have been testing the 464 in the 8 oz. square mason jar. I am also being mocked!! LOL I cannot get the Lx or Eco wicks to perform perfect, I have poured 8 candles with same fragrance/wax and put in 4 different size lx wicks and eco wicks and although I do get good scent throw they either burn way to hot and smoke or to weak and start to drown out. I did order a sample pack of CD wicks- why is this sooo complicated?? Does anyone have any feedback on the 464 vs. the cb135 and wicking suggestions? Thanks so much