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watching this thread... color me intrigued.

I used to use SoS and enjoyed many of their novelty oils. Even had some oils made. But not anymore. Prices too high and oils made weaker. I'll still order from them on occasion but it's a rarity. Got ?s PM me.

OK Just tried out a sample order of CandleMaker's offerings. In a word; HORRIBLE! I Tried: Fireworks, Gunpowder and Burnt Rubber They were awful and not because they smelled of sulfur (they didn't) they smelled sweetly, perfume with a dry woodnote like sandalwood with a odd soapy background. They smelled nothing like their namesakes. Fireworks and Gunpowder were identical, at least to my nose. Burnt Rubber was as I expected, a mostly Leather fragrance with a hint of smoke. It kinda worked but not really accurate to "Burnt Rubber". I chalk this sample test up as a failure. Not to derail the thread but has anyone else had bad luck from CandleMaker's Store?

If you have the materials available you might can get something similar mixing a sharp Leather FO with a Marzipan type scent (Something in the Tonka, Heliotrope, Powdery Vanilla Plastic, Playdoh Almond aroma family) Then add a bit of Cardamom FO and Smoke FO. You'd be hard-pressed to find something that will give you that sulfurous quality of gunpowder mostly because sulfides are rarely used in Fragrance Oil. Good Luck.

Save On Scents has those I think.

Dafont is one of my favs

Fragrance Buddy has a good one!

Hi! My intent is not to discourage you but to push your design to a greater level. Below I have a line of questions that you should ask yourself to determine what you want your label to look like and how it will be perceived by your customers. This is subjective, my opinion. I would consider swapping out the brush-script font with one that is more legible. Your body copy is good although a bit "wordy". Maybe removing or simplifying the "100% Hand-Poured in Clear Water Beach, Florida" would help. Is "100% Hand Poured" needed and if so does "in Clear Water Beach, Florida" need to follow or can it be placed elsewhere on the label, perhaps under the logo>? Next I wonder if flip-flopping the candle scent name and your logo would make a better design. Something to toy with. Ideally, the brand should be the first thing people "see". Your color scheme is good although you might want to add a contrasting element, either in the form of a new font choice that vastly differs from your copy font, or with a complementary color (something in the orange family) or some other contrasting element. Consider what's the most important in info for your labels and the least important. Don't feel compelled to take up every inch of space on your label. This is a common mistake (not that you did it here) that even commercial companies will do, thinking they have to fill the entire format to get their message across. The goal is to have a clean design with an eye catching logo and simplistic, quick to read label info. You're nearly there! It's looking good. Just need to clean it up a bit. If using "Clearwater Beach Florida" as the building block of your design's theme; what other elements besides color would emphasize this theme and harmoniously complement your company name? Cheers!

The Black one is very modern, clean and nice looking but different from the rest. I like it but would personally not recommend it because it's more commercial, mainstream which doesn't work in certain scenarios. Plus, I find it would be more appropriate for a Bath/Body line. The Tan one is my favorite. I think it has the most oomph! I would limit the color pallet some and maybe choose a darker color for the font. Placement is good but I wonder if the store name wouldn't look better if it were not arched but instead straight across. The only thing I could suggest is to maybe make the entire image look more like a stamp or wood cut or crosshatched pen/ink illustration something similar to a Victorian era newspaper advertisement. I'm a bit critical by trade but I think you have a solid design! Look really good! And well.. you know what they say about opinions. lol

Gemlite has a good Patch! SaveonScents is also good but only if you order in Ultra Strength.

FB had the Bourbon Barrel Scent. Put in a order thank you! Description sounds nice. Can't wait to try it. Got my Elf Ale scent... it's sweet! Good CT haven't tried HT yet. Odd scent tbh but comforting (homey) and certainly festive. Smells similar to root beer in the bottle but has minty aspect to it and a tart twinge of alcohol. Can't really smell the apple OOB but I do get the cranberry notes. I hoping the apple scent comes through in HT. Might be kind of strange as a soap but I do think it would make a very nice candle from Autumn to Winter.

I like Wellington Fragrance's Smoke Fragrance Oil. It's a wood smoke crazy strong scent! I mix it with their Nutmeg FO.

@jfear I see you already mentioned SOS but have you tried mixing their Graham Cracker FO with their Ginger Cookie Crisp FO?

On a whim I mixed together Clean Cotton and Peppermint. Hard to describe the scent but it's a keeper. I found out that most "cotton" fragrances are a actually a blend of Magnolia Blossom and Sandalwood (who knew?) I figured blending Sandalwood with the Peppermint would help tame the harshness of the mint. Round it out. It did. So then I tried Clean Cotton and Wowza! it's a nice scent! Haven't figured out a name for it yet.

Favorite fragrance right now is Gemilte's Frosted Lavender. It's clean unisex without leaning floral feminine and it has a great upscale spa type aroma. I'm going to try to sell it off as a Christmas scent. Any ideas for a cutesy name? Speaking of they also have a fragrance oil called "Elf Beer" or something, which sounds interesting. I put in an order for that so I'll keep you posted on it's throw and scent a little later. Oh hey Candybee have you tried their Patch! It's pretty amazing! Some of their FCs are a bit weak but their Patch EO is really strong. Anyone come across a sweetly bourbon oak fragrance? If it smells anything like I imagine it to be... It would certainly be my NEW favorite fragrance.

Just checked again and found more interesting info here: http://www.compoundchem.com/2014/06/01/newoldbooksmell/ The above link seems to indicate that the base smell is mostly a Tonka Bean aroma (Almond Powdery Vanilla) with slight hint of a dirty floral green note. Maybe instead of Vanilla use a Tonka Bean FO. Put your mad scientist goggles on...It looks like it's time to experiment.

I remember reading somewhere that the trick to the old aged book smell is actually to use a little fresh cut grass. The aroma chem responsible for that grass smell is also a byproduct smell created in old books combined with a sweetly vanillin aroma. I would take the blend starting with the base notes and work your way up. Save on Scents fragrance isn't too far off, but they missed the mark when they added that cucumber note. In a lesser amount it would smell more like ink. I think that was their intention but used too much. For an old aged paper smell: I'd start with a leather and vanilla combo. But not a heady "new car" leather but instead an aged leather (mostly castoreum) then add a mild almost nondescript heart note. Something like Lovage or Fenugreek (EOs will be easier to source). Lastly add in drops a bit of fresh cut grass and see what that does. Should get you pretty close. If you can source Seaweed Absolute.. (it's expensive) a little of that in a sandalwood leather vanilla combo would work too! I haven't found anyone that actually has an old book fragrance oil. Yet.

Does BCN's "smoke" and odor eliminator really smell like cigarettes? 'Cause if so...that's REALLY funny.

Most, IF NOT ALL of their perfume dupes should be ordered in Extreme Concentration. SOS grade isn't up to snuff on most of the fragrance oils. Unless of course it's basic everyday scents. Order the sniffies first. Find the ones you like -- then order in a lower grade if you think it will still work.

Anyone wanting a rustic burnt sugary tobacco fragrance should check out SOS. Tobacco Keynote. It's very syrupy but really does smell like tobacco. I use it a blender! Strong scent.

Leather and Bamboo is equally awesome. Great unisexy clean smell! Call me crazy but given those scents; I would think a Bamboo/Black Cherry blend might be just the ticket! 3 parts bamboo to 1 part black cherry?

Another place to try for quirky FOs: AAA Candle Supply. They can produce many of the defunct Taylored Concepts oils (They had TONS of novelty types!)

Looks like they're using SaveonScents as one of their suppliers. They manufacture those unusual fragrances. I'd assume the 3oz min is to cover the premium cost of SOS's oils.

THAT sounds more like Valerian. It's VERY gym sock-ish. Heady sour wood smell with a slight etheral, alcholic quality.

I find Vetiver has a slightly nutty aroma (somewhat like raw dirty peanuts) It's earthy, but not like soil. I've heard other compare it to "wet ashtray" or "old wood". It's certainly unique.