MoonShadow Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Ok, so I had some CO from JBN and decided to play. I used ecosoya 135. I guess I didn't pay attention to the amount, cuz I added 2 TBLS pp. Then I reread the thread and thought, '...gonna be failed test #193725629498!!!!! BUT...low and behold...the two testers I made, both 16 oz Apoth, 1 Green Clover and Aloe, the other Vanilla Sandalwood, wicked differently, have absolutely NO WET SPOTS, no cracks, creamy smooth tops, better cold and hot throw, and they burn like a dream. Better than beeswax, UCA, vybar and crisco. So I'm gonna keep testing with CO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Just back after a few weeks off line & read this whole thread with interest.How's everyones testing working out?I'm especially interested in results from folk using Ecosoya CBA or 135 as that's all I can get here.Also has anyone tried it with the Ecosoya PB?I was wondering if it would help with the occasional cracks that I get.My supplies are still out of action after my move so I haven't had the chance to play for weeks now & I have withdrawal symptoms, but I need to perfect some pillars soon, so I just might give the CO a go....now to find some locally.Sally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Hey sally I have not tried it in the Ecosoya PB yet but hey worth a shot. I do use the Ecosoya 135 and advance and after adding the CO I am going to use just the ecosoya 135. The throw is better and the tops are smooth. I was still getting wet spots with the advance and I hate that. The frosting has has been less with the cb135. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Hi gdawg,that's good to know, CBA is so slow to cure I've given up with it but the CB135 is more prone to funky tops so anything to help that has to be good.I don't usually dye my soy so frosting isn't much of an issue at the moment.Sally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breanna Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 scent works huh..well I just may have to go find that link now and try it lol geese just when I think I am safe and not going to order anything for a week or so from anybodyPeaks has an awesome Pink Sugar that throws very well in Soy,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breanna Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 HOLY COW! I'm away for a few weeks, and I miss out on this hot thread?? Now I need to try this out!geekHey Geek Welcome back!! :highfive: Was thinking on this thread and was wondering,,What do you think the Frostop was made of from MC and Barnloft?? Think maybe Coconut oil was involved in a hardened state:laugh2: or just crumbled white beeswax? Just a thought.Been thinking a lot,,this can be dangerous at times:rolleyes2 I think I might, just for fun try the coconut oil in this big case of 464 Im not thrilled with. Just doesnt wanna throw with some FO's,,the 444 is still working out great,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 thanks for the pink sugar tip Breanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrycreekcandles Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 I am usiing the CO with 444 and my testing is turned out great, my scent throw seems to be better both hot and cold, I am not having as much frosting and my tops are smooth. Also have had no wick problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlesinIL Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 well - I went to a Walmart and they didn't have it..... went to SUPER walmart and they had it!!!! It cost me 3.16 cents with tax for 31.5 oz.Plan to test and pour today.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxGirl Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I've been folllowing this thread fairly close. So did you all decide that the CO does help with frosting? I'm not so much worried about the scent throw. I scent mine at the max, but the frost is awful! I use CB Advance Soy. I really like it, but it frosts like mad. Which is strange since they are supposed to be one with the lesser frost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxGirl Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 By the way, I did find it at my local grocery store. It was $6.99 for a small jar. This one has a higher melt point, and it said it is extra refined? I think I will wait and go to super walmart. I don't want to use it though unless it really helps with the issues with soy. I'll keep watching this thread for more updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breanna Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 thanks for the pink sugar tip BreannaYour Welcome Gdawg, its the best one I have found out there so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breanna Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I am usiing the CO with 444 and my testing is turned out great, my scent throw seems to be better both hot and cold, I am not having as much frosting and my tops are smooth. Also have had no wick problems!Thats Great news on the 444 BerryCakeCandles, I havent had much problems with frosting here since they re-batched it but ya never know so I am happy to here it works good!!! I do have some 464 that doesnt throw very well even with Top-notch FO's and proper wicking, its bugging the crap outa me since I have a case of it here so I think I am going to go pick some CO up and give it a try,, this has been a very good thread!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yes I would say it does help with frosting. Strange though cause I never had frosting with the CB advanced just ugly spots where it doesnt adhere to the jar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxGirl Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I wonder if it's the different climates. Where I live we've had too much rain and it is horribly hot and the humidity is so high it's ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 txgirl maybe the climates. He have had no rain here for a long time but the heat and humidty is high here. 96 here today aghh my grass is so dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 TxGirl, I think you want the 76 (liquid at 76° F). We pour in an air conditioned space here (LA), so the temp and humidity are not as much of a problem, but we have to watch where we store them... Even in the house, some areas heat up more than others... and the Dog Days are not even here yet! I feel sure that the humidity (particularly the levels we have down here) has an effect, but have not seen too much about exactly how and why it affects soy candles... would love to know more about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 hey do you think maybe between the humidity and the %of FO effects it? I have tried adding what it says it can hold but then the wick I use affects the throw to basically nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I think the humidity/temp has a lot to do with wicking for sure. It stands to reason that it would affect the candle itself - like maybe we should "cook" 'em longer to allow excess moisture to evaporate maybe? You have raised a good question. I keep meaning to get an indoor hygrometer so I can measure the humidity inside during the summer vs. the winter. I do keep track of the ambient air temp when I am pouring, but don't know about the humidity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexie Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Tried it again today using 1/2 Tablespoon per 1 # C-3 wax. It's better, but still slightly cauliflower tops...I'm afraid to add too much as it really makes the wax on the oily side...but I'm going to try just a bit more later. Much less humidity today so that could factor in also.Note to self: Do not leave Black Cherry fo in a plastic cup for more than 30 seconds...melts through the cup:olol!!! had this happen last night with autumn lodge, what the??!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricia76 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Ok so I use Cargill C-3 100% soy wax so is there a certain time when I add the coconut oil?I am so lost here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrycreekcandles Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I just put it in with my wax before I melt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I add mine to the pour pot when I add the color and FO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindanelson Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I add mine to the pour pot when I add the color and FOI add it to the melted wax in my pour pot also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I warmed my pour pot on a flat griddle pan and added the CO in the pour pot to melt before I added my hot wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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