Venetti Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I've tried to find the answer to my question but was unable to. My question is this; what is the best parasoy for container candles? I want the best HT/CT possible in a parasoy. Im trying to research a few but can't find any good information. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 If you don't blend it yourself, most people love and work with the 6006. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Sounds like I need to order some 6006 for the next round of wick tests.... 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara AL Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I like The Flaming Candle’s Problend 600 great Parasoy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flicker Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 This is a loaded question, it may yield you dozens of answers, none the same. However, I personally love the IGI 6006 and have been using it so long, that when I started it was still Dussek Campbell making it, then it went to BP, then to IGI. Yep, a long time. I personally love it. Enough soy to "keep it clean" enough paraffin to burn stellar and throw amazingly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajah Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Igi 4630 and GW 464 50/50 is good imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 13 hours ago, Ajah said: Igi 4630 and GW 464 50/50 is good imo. So you like that combo? What wicks are your choice for this combo? I was thinking of maybe trying a blend. For an example what jar would you use and your choice of wick in this combo if you don't mind me asking? Thanks so much! Trappeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajah Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Trappeur said: So you like that combo? What wicks are your choice for this combo? I was thinking of maybe trying a blend. For an example what jar would you use and your choice of wick in this combo if you don't mind me asking? Thanks so much! Trappeur I'm currently using htp wicks, but I want to test eco just to compare. And I'm using a tumbler that I got from Peak Candle Supply. But I believe Candle Science has the same ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickie Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 On 11/1/2017 at 8:41 AM, Barbara AL said: I like The Flaming Candle’s Problend 600 great Parasoy I second this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthomas57 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 6006 or Clarus 3020 or 3022 I think 6006 throws a bit better, 3022 burns a bit cleaner. Neither are that easy to wick in my opinion. I use both a lot though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venetti Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 @Ajah I got the eco sample pack and in the IGI 6006, it soots like crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajah Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 15 minutes ago, Venetti said: @Ajah I got the eco sample pack and in the IGI 6006, it soots like crazy. Really... look at this pic. It's 50/50 igi 4630 and GW 464, htp 83 Wick. One has soot and one is clean. But I fell asleep with one and it burned over night ( the one with soot). So this blend imo burns great and smells great. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthomas57 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Venetti said: @Ajah I got the eco sample pack and in the IGI 6006, it soots like crazy. It soots like crazy but ECOs soot like crazy in 6006. Dont use eco with 6006 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird1 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 igi 6006 parasoy. I has a great cold and hot throw, I don’t get ugly frosting like with soy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venetti Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 I've tested over 15 wicks and have fallen in love with the LX and premier wicks. They haven't left any soot on the jars and burn wonderfully. Testing the RRD wicks now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venetti Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 I was also wondering if adding straight paraffin to the IGI 6006 would give a greater HT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Venetti said: I was also wondering if adding straight paraffin to the IGI 6006 would give a greater HT? I've been playing around with blending 4630 & 6006. Some of my scents that are great in 4630 but duds in 6006 will throw in a blend of the two. The good throwers aren't really any stronger with the addition of 4630, just that more FO's will potentially work with the blend. I've played around with it for a few weeks now, and initially I was happy with it. The last few days, not so much. I revisited some candles I had tested several weeks ago. They are 50/50 4630 & 6006, so roughly 15% soy. I am finding they burn significantly different now than they did a week after they were poured. I didn't think the cure time would matter so much with so low a percentage of soy. At a 5-7 day cure, they burn more like 4630. At a 3-4 week cure, they burn more like 6006.....so the wicking that I thought was pretty well dialed in is no longer up to snuff. I've thought on it for a couple of days. This morning I woke up and said to myself....why am I bothering with this mess? I can make great candles with either wax on its own. Maybe, if you factor in the fact that a few more scents will throw with this blend than 6006 alone, then maybe there is a small benefit to blending. But at the end of the day, in my very humble opinion, nothing beats the ease of 4630. So what I need to do is ditch the 6006 entirely and go back to 4630. Which is what I am going to do. Unless I change my mind. 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatCatCandles Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 7:12 PM, Venetti said: I've tested over 15 wicks and have fallen in love with the LX and premier wicks. They haven't left any soot on the jars and burn wonderfully. Testing the RRD wicks now. Hi, which wax or blend have you found works great with LX? I got a sample pack for trying in just paraffin, but would be good to know how it performs in soy as well. I've used ECO 4 and 10's in a 464/4630 blend, with ok results. The throw's not spectacular, but there's no sooting. --> With eco 4 in an 8oz straight sided jar, FO 8%, i got a full melt pool in the first 2 hours burn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary in Canada Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Hope I'm putting this in the proper thread...but I believe 6006 is a ParaSoy blend?? So if you make a candle with 6006 to sell...can you legally call it a "Soy Candle".?? I only make candles for myself and give aways to friends, my hairstylist, and servers at my local..lol. But I have bought "soy" candles and Im just wondering if they are 100% soy, because they throw great. I've been trying to duplicate them without any luck. Is there any regulations on labelling?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marleigha Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 5:00 PM, bfroberts said: I've been playing around with blending 4630 & 6006. Some of my scents that are great in 4630 but duds in 6006 will throw in a blend of the two. The good throwers aren't really any stronger with the addition of 4630, just that more FO's will potentially work with the blend. I've played around with it for a few weeks now, and initially I was happy with it. The last few days, not so much. I revisited some candles I had tested several weeks ago. They are 50/50 4630 & 6006, so roughly 15% soy. I am finding they burn significantly different now than they did a week after they were poured. I didn't think the cure time would matter so much with so low a percentage of soy. At a 5-7 day cure, they burn more like 4630. At a 3-4 week cure, they burn more like 6006.....so the wicking that I thought was pretty well dialed in is no longer up to snuff. I've thought on it for a couple of days. This morning I woke up and said to myself....why am I bothering with this mess? I can make great candles with either wax on its own. Maybe, if you factor in the fact that a few more scents will throw with this blend than 6006 alone, then maybe there is a small benefit to blending. But at the end of the day, in my very humble opinion, nothing beats the ease of 4630. So what I need to do is ditch the 6006 entirely and go back to 4630. Which is what I am going to do. Unless I change my mind. Do you do the same for melts? I'm trying to come up with a nice blend for melts that obviously has a great CT/HT and the scent lasts for a long while. 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 52 minutes ago, Marleigha said: Do you do the same for melts? I'm trying to come up with a nice blend for melts that obviously has a great CT/HT and the scent lasts for a long while. 😇 No, it would be way too soft. For melts I blend a container wax and a pillar wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marleigha Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 11/12/2017 at 9:10 AM, bfroberts said: No, it would be way too soft. For melts I blend a container wax and a pillar wax. Oh okay. I've tested many different blends but have not found anything yet that I'm completely satisfied with! It's good, I just know there's something better! Drives me insane.... 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venetti Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 5:00 PM, bfroberts said: I've been playing around with blending 4630 & 6006. Some of my scents that are great in 4630 but duds in 6006 will throw in a blend of the two. The good throwers aren't really any stronger with the addition of 4630, just that more FO's will potentially work with the blend. I've played around with it for a few weeks now, and initially I was happy with it. The last few days, not so much. I revisited some candles I had tested several weeks ago. They are 50/50 4630 & 6006, so roughly 15% soy. I am finding they burn significantly different now than they did a week after they were poured. I didn't think the cure time would matter so much with so low a percentage of soy. At a 5-7 day cure, they burn more like 4630. At a 3-4 week cure, they burn more like 6006.....so the wicking that I thought was pretty well dialed in is no longer up to snuff. I've thought on it for a couple of days. This morning I woke up and said to myself....why am I bothering with this mess? I can make great candles with either wax on its own. Maybe, if you factor in the fact that a few more scents will throw with this blend than 6006 alone, then maybe there is a small benefit to blending. But at the end of the day, in my very humble opinion, nothing beats the ease of 4630. So what I need to do is ditch the 6006 entirely and go back to 4630. Which is what I am going to do. Unless I change my mind. You sound exactly like me to a T. 🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venetti Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 On 11/10/2017 at 6:32 AM, CatCatCandles said: Hi, which wax or blend have you found works great with LX? I got a sample pack for trying in just paraffin, but would be good to know how it performs in soy as well. I've used ECO 4 and 10's in a 464/4630 blend, with ok results. The throw's not spectacular, but there's no sooting. --> With eco 4 in an 8oz straight sided jar, FO 8%, i got a full melt pool in the first 2 hours burn. I'm terribly sorry catcatcandles. I've only just seen your reply. I'm a bit slow these past few weeks with being so busy. I've tried about every wick you could think of in IGI 6006 by itself with no luck. I'm very particular and am trying to find the perfect wick. The eco wicks in 6006 soot entirely too much for my liking. The entire jar ends up black when the candle dissipates. Most of the wicks I've tested in the IGI 6006 end up the same way. Lots of mushrooming as well. I've been testing IGI 6006 & GW 464. I got a 2lb bag of the 464. I use 5oz 6006 with 1oz 464. (For one candle/one pour.) I've also tried 3oz 6006 + 2oz 464. The wick I've found to burn the best all around is the LX series. Obviously depending on your jar size and FO load, you'll have to test each size separately. The jars and smoke come out clean and the wick is self trimming. I love the LX series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venetti Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 On 11/10/2017 at 7:33 PM, Gary in Canada said: Hope I'm putting this in the proper thread...but I believe 6006 is a ParaSoy blend?? So if you make a candle with 6006 to sell...can you legally call it a "Soy Candle".?? I only make candles for myself and give aways to friends, my hairstylist, and servers at my local..lol. But I have bought "soy" candles and Im just wondering if they are 100% soy, because they throw great. I've been trying to duplicate them without any luck. Is there any regulations on labelling?? I'm almost 99.99% sure that if there is any soy at all in the candle it can be claimed as a 'soy candle.' I'm not entirely sure, but almost positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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