Being around on Etsy for over a year now I can honestly say that it's not the place it once was....and for you old timers on Etsy, I'm sure you would say that even louder then I did. Same as SuzyK there, we used to be very active in the forums and chat (even got some sales that way) but since the switchover to "Teams" in the forums, it's just pointless. Seems admin doesn't do a thing about anything unless its going to get them sued. As for the resellers over there, they are a dime a dozen anymore....I have seen admin shut shops down to only have that same person reopen under a new name...There is one shop I know of that resells OBI's warmers and packages them with their rock crystals and to Etsy admin, that's handmade...what a joke! We have over 300 items up over there and used to run up a bill over $100 a month...here lately tho I won't renew unless it sold and as for listing new... Well, still debating that one. Really have been focusing on our site and think we might just go that route... That $100 a month could get some decent advertising for our OWN site and not go into Etsy's fat pockets! Ok, Im done venting =) Good topic Wessex