Thanks, I am beginning to think this is a FO that shrooms all the way to the end. I have tried different wicks, LX's HTP's, CD's CDN's Premier 700's to name a few and I keep going back to the RRD's cause of the hot throw I get with them. I have not tried the ECO's with this size of container so I may have to give that a shot and see if I have any down in my stck pile of wicks lol I have so many of differnt kinds that I had to break down and buy a wick caddy to keep them all seperate