YAMS Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) I thought of continuing with this question on my previous post of double wicking but I figured I add it as a separate post. So far wicking status jars, mason jars, jelly jars, etc have been going well. My problem child continues to be my Dollar Tree square jars. They measure 3 1/2". Picture below. I have attempted to wick with: 1 LX 20, 2 LX 14, (both under wicked), 1 60-44-18 zinc (under wicked), 2 60-44-18 (over wicked), 1 62-44-18 zinc (with this one is either over wicked or under wicked depending on FO and color). I only use Comfort Blend 4627. I may consider not using it anymore but I really like it plus it is very inexpensive, good quality and readily available to me. Do any of you work with this container? What works for you? Edited October 10, 2016 by YAMS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazeKelly Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I use csn16 or 14 for this jar with a 464 and cba blend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdcharm Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I plan to pick up some of these on my next trip for supplies. I've been hoping to pour GW444 and thought that I would use a #3 square braid cotton to see how that goes. If it can't melt out to the edges, I may try two 2/0 square braid cotton wicks about an inch apart, although those might be too large. That's my guess for my wax anyway! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldieMN Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 This is kind of off topic, but I am so afraid to use a glass container for selling candles that is not from a container company advertised as a candle container or as a container made for canning which to me means it is tempered for heat. Do these containers have a label indicating they are for candles? Please do not think I am criticizing your choice. I would love to use different containers. I found a source for the hobnail pint jars but such a chicken about using them for candles since they don't fit the above criteria. Goldie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 45 minutes ago, GoldieMN said: This is kind of off topic, but I am so afraid to use a glass container for selling candles that is not from a container company advertised as a candle container or as a container made for canning which to me means it is tempered for heat. Do these containers have a label indicating they are for candles? Please do not think I am criticizing your choice. I would love to use different containers. I found a source for the hobnail pint jars but such a chicken about using them for candles since they don't fit the above criteria. Goldie I have always used them and they perform great. Never get hot, it is a thick glass. I know that many people here use it. The ones I get from DT have a Libby sticker but other times I have found them without the sticker and they look and work the same. I am very comfortable using them but I understand you. I have found some really nice containers and I haven't bought them because of the reason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstar Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 52 minutes ago, KrazeKelly said: I use csn16 or 14 for this jar with a 464 and cba blend. CSN OR CDN ? Never heard of CSN . Is adding CBA for HT ? Interesting ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Moonstar said: CSN OR CDN ? Never heard of CSN . Is adding CBA for HT ? Interesting ? What is CBA??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I use 6006, and 60z usually works in these jars. If you have to double wick, I would use 36-24's. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I know this won't help you....but in case you switch to another wax.....I use 464 and do 1 cd16. Trappeur 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, bfroberts said: I use 6006, and 60z usually works in these jars. If you have to double wick, I would use 36-24's. Perfect. I will order some 36s. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazeKelly Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 23 minutes ago, Moonstar said: CSN OR CDN ? Never heard of CSN . Is adding CBA for HT ? Interesting ? CSN from Candlescience. CBA helps control the frosting for me in 464. I also heat my jars in the oven before I pour and let them cool in the oven also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazeKelly Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 26 minutes ago, YAMS said: What is CBA??? Ecosoya CB Advanced soy wax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flicker Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I think if you measure that jar on the diagonal you will find in reality it is closer to 4" from corner to corner. In IGI 4627 I have always found that zinc core wicks do well. If I were using that jar, I would space two 44-24-18 so that the wick tabs are almost touching in the bottom of the container and spaced so they are going corner to corner versus side to side. Anything that wide really will either need to be burned a very long time (not realistic) or use two wicks to properly burn for most folks. This method has been one I have found to work well really in all the single pour waxes over the past 20 years. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstar Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, Flicker said: I think if you measure that jar on the diagonal you will find in reality it is closer to 4" from corner to corner. In IGI 4627 I have always found that zinc core wicks do well. If I were using that jar, I would space two 44-24-18 so that the wick tabs are almost touching in the bottom of the container and spaced so they are going corner to corner versus side to side. Anything that wide really will either need to be burned a very long time (not realistic) or use two wicks to properly burn for most folks. This method has been one I have found to work well really in all the single pour waxes over the past 20 years. Thank you for sharing. I found both your answer + explanation very helpful. I never would of thought measuring on the diagonal. If I may ask a question, is the proper way to measure the diameter of a container from the outside rim or the actual inside opening - does that make sense ??? lol ! TYIA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Makes perfect sense Moonstar. You measure the actual inside opening as that is the actual area of wax you will be melting..... Trappeur 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstar Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 57 minutes ago, KrazeKelly said: CSN from Candlescience. CBA helps control the frosting for me in 464. I also heat my jars in the oven before I pour and let them cool in the oven also. Interesting about the frosting . May I ask what is the ratio that is added to the 464 . 1 minute ago, Trappeur said: Makes perfect sense Moonstar. You measure the actual inside opening as that is the actual area of wax you will be melting..... Trappeur Thanks - thats what i do for the vintage containers because like you said, thats the actual area the wax is melting. Yay me lol ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazeKelly Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 23 minutes ago, Moonstar said: Interesting about the frosting . May I ask what is the ratio that is added to the 464 . Thanks - thats what i do for the vintage containers because like you said, thats the actual area the wax is melting. Yay me lol ! I do 60% 464 and 40% CBA. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 hours ago, birdcharm said: I plan to pick up some of these on my next trip for supplies. I've been hoping to pour GW444 and thought that I would use a #3 square braid cotton to see how that goes. If it can't melt out to the edges, I may try two 2/0 square braid cotton wicks about an inch apart, although those might be too large. That's my guess for my wax anyway! only problem with square braids in soy is they tend to slump. They're not rigid enough to stand in the soy wax the whole life the candle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdcharm Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 4 hours ago, TallTayl said: only problem with square braids in soy is they tend to slump. They're not rigid enough to stand in the soy wax the whole life the candle. Thanks for the tip ... perhaps that occurs in some soy waxes and not others ...? I haven't had any issues with them doing that with the wax I've been using. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 11 minutes ago, birdcharm said: Thanks for the tip ... perhaps that occurs in some soy waxes and not others ...? I haven't had any issues with them doing that with the wax I've been using. Happens when the MP gets about 1/4-1/2 inch deep. The square braid just collapses onto itself. You won't see unless you are looking for it. It starts to be noticeable when the wicks look kind of short after the candle cools. When you pull on them you'll find the extra length. Eventually they get hard to light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 13, 2016 Author Share Posted October 13, 2016 On 10/10/2016 at 2:32 PM, Flicker said: I think if you measure that jar on the diagonal you will find in reality it is closer to 4" from corner to corner. In IGI 4627 I have always found that zinc core wicks do well. If I were using that jar, I would space two 44-24-18 so that the wick tabs are almost touching in the bottom of the container and spaced so they are going corner to corner versus side to side. Anything that wide really will either need to be burned a very long time (not realistic) or use two wicks to properly burn for most folks. This method has been one I have found to work well really in all the single pour waxes over the past 20 years. Thanks Flicker. I will put that to the test he next time for sure. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 13, 2016 Author Share Posted October 13, 2016 On 10/10/2016 at 2:55 PM, Moonstar said: Thank you for sharing. I found both your answer + explanation very helpful. I never would of thought measuring on the diagonal. If I may ask a question, is the proper way to measure the diameter of a container from the outside rim or the actual inside opening - does that make sense ??? lol ! TYIA Good question and I agree great advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flicker Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 On 10/10/2016 at 1:55 PM, Moonstar said: Thank you for sharing. I found both your answer + explanation very helpful. I never would of thought measuring on the diagonal. If I may ask a question, is the proper way to measure the diameter of a container from the outside rim or the actual inside opening - does that make sense ??? lol ! TYIA the actual diameter that the candle will burn...so inside to inside. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chefmom Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 On 10/10/2016 at 4:57 PM, TallTayl said: only problem with square braids in soy is they tend to slump. They're not rigid enough to stand in the soy wax the whole life the candle. I have found that priming them with beeswax before using them helps with this issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstar Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Flicker said: the actual diameter that the candle will burn...so inside to inside. Thank you ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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