That must really suck. My husband drives too, but he is company. thank god. Well, back to the original reason this thread started. I went to Nature's web site and just bought a case of my usual mp145 before they sell out and discontinue which is what they did with the mp123 I used for containers. Hell, I got a case of that for not much more than a slab of Michael's. Michael's can stick it. Even with the 40% off coupon that I did cut out of Sunday's sale ad it still wasn't worth it. Like I said it's not that great to begin with. The bad thing about making the order with nature's is that of course I had to order more f.o.'s, and my total ended up being a little more than $200.00. Oh well, I love doing it, and that is all that matters:rolleyes2 .