I am so sorry broadzilla!! I TOTALLY know what you how you feels with not being able to find them locally!! Carriegsxr6... you would not have found that all at Wal-Mart... and she DID NOT need to be an a$$ to you... good for you making her put back all the groceries... I HATE rude customer service people:angry2: . Another supplier I order from is Majestic Mountain Sage (MMS) http://www.thesage.com/ they are in Utah... still closer than Ohio. I do like their stuff too. Most of the supplies I buy I have to get online, except some oils (coconut, safflower, Olive oil) , salts (epsom, sea salt) and the FO's I get a Cierra Candles. I too thought "I hate Nevada" too when I first started doing B&B not too long ago, now I just remind myself "it could be worse" We could be out of the US and not have as many options for suppliers...I know there are few here from other countries (UK, Ireland, Canada and Italy).:tiptoe: HTH you feel a little better:D