Velma Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I used to make and sell candles 10+ years ago, and decided to start again for fun and extra cash. I looked at my old formula sheet to give me a starting point, and I am confused by it. LOL It shows that I took the amount of wax needed for a container and multiplied by 86%, then added in FO, dye, any additives, etc. For the life of me I cannot remember why I did that!! Can someone help an aging brain on this one? Was this to account for the difference in wax between a solid and liquid form?? Or was I just crazy back then? For instance, this show to make 2 jelly jars I would need 11.70 total volume of wax, which then separated out to 0.71 oz FO and 10.99 oz wax , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Might have been the amount of scented wax that filled the jelly jars. If I remember correctly when I filled JJ's they only took about 6 3/4 fill of scented wax even though they were 8oz jars. If you further seperate the amt of wax and FO the wax fill would come out closer to 6oz. I am not sure looking at that what your actual fill is with wax/scent combo. I do my fill charts much simpler. But I have to know first what my total wax/scent fill for each jar size is. Then I calculate the % of FO for the fill of x amount of jars, and that will give me both my wax amount and FO amounts needed to fill those jars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Candybee said: Might have been the amount of scented wax that filled the jelly jars. If I remember correctly when I filled JJ's they only took about 6 3/4 fill of scented wax even though they were 8oz jars. If you further seperate the amt of wax and FO the wax fill would come out closer to 6oz. I am not sure looking at that what your actual fill is with wax/scent combo. That sounds about right. Right now I'm working with just clamshells and tart molds, and I did the same - weigh out the volume needed for each one. I was wondering what the heck I did a decade ago! Thanks so much for the assistance! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldieMN Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 It looks like you are using 14% fragrance oil, 86% wax. GoldieMN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, GoldieMN said: It looks like you are using 14% fragrance oil, 86% wax. GoldieMN At quick first glance I thought that too. But looking at it, she is converting the volume of water into the volume of the wax. The result tells how much wax to fill that container. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Looks like you were taking the weight of the water the container would hold x 86% to determine the weight of wax it would hold. Edited to add: Yeah, what TT said. She beat me to it. Edited October 17, 2017 by bfroberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara AL Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Yes you were converting liquid weight to solid weight. When waxes are melted the liquid is more than 16 ounces for instances soy when melted is more like 18 liquid ounces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) Apparently that is exactly what I was doing! I just did a few pours, and the ones where I did not use the 86% factor, I had about 0.50 oz overage. Back then I was using a 70/30 parasoy blend. so 14% was probably the exact number to use. Looks like i will need to use 10% now that I'm using 100% soy. Thanks everyone for chiming in! Edited October 18, 2017 by Velma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mao Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I have not done this, and have a question. If 16 oz of wax turns to 18oz melted do you figure how much FO on pre melted wax or melted wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdcharm Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 6 hours ago, mao said: I have not done this, and have a question. If 16 oz of wax turns to 18oz melted do you figure how much FO on pre melted wax or melted wax. Anyone, please feel free to correct me if I don't describe this correctly. A pound of wax by weight is about 19 or 20 ounces by volume ... this measurement is used when determining how much wax to melt for your containers. The amount of scent used is not based on liquid measure (or volume), but on weight, as is the wax. I recently read the following on a supplier's website: "Did you weigh your FO and add it to the correct amount of MELTED wax? If you added 1 ounce of FO to 16 ounces (1 LB) of wax BEFORE it was melted, you have now added 1 ounce of FO to about 19 ounces of melted wax." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 always use weights. The specific gravity (density) of waxes vary wildly. An 8 fluid ounce cup of pure water at sea level will weigh 8oz. The same volume of wax will weigh anywhere from 6 oz to close to 6.5ish closing in on 7 depending on what wax you weigh. Weight is weight is weight whether solidified or melted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdcharm Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just to mention, I did write the supplier that posted that and let them know that what they wrote was "confusing" ... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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