LuminousBoutique Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) I was going to email peaks- but you know what- they look the same! I wonder about contacting peaks and seeing about doing a pops co-op. I have about 2oz of each color right now and I need more. I wonder how much they have.. and if they could handle a bulk order from all of us... but they only have raspberry and apple green that I see. Edited March 1, 2011 by LuminousBoutique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judymoody Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 The Conservatorie carries a lot of micas but they don't market specifically to soapers so you'd have to do some trial and error experimentation to see what works. I just bought a bunch of samples to try. I have read and seen elsewhere that shamrock green, medium blue, magic yellow, merlot, and one of the violets are CP stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMori Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I know this reply isn't about pop colors, but it may be helpful...Here is what I do... I mix my own colors using fd&c/d&c dyes, ultramarines, and oxides, etc. I weigh out 1/2 gram of dye to 49.5 grams of water. That way I know the ratio is always .5:49.5 or 1:99. I put the powdered dye and water into a dropper bottle. Shake, shake, shake. Add preservative. (Preservative may not be needed if you are going to refrigerate. I've done this without problems. Just keep in a fridge that is about 34 degrees.)There are a lot of fd&c/d&c dyes to choose from, but most suppliers will give you an idea of what red 40 looks like compared to red 3 or red 28. Blue 1 turns a shade of pink or purple in an alkali environment (in contact with lye) depending on how much you use. The color of the soap base, most being a bit yellow/gold or greenish will affect the ultimate color. If you are trying for a blue, you need to experiment a little (I cheat and look at the inci info for LabColors & Select Shades and go from there.) I keep my basic colors mixed (blue 1, red 40, red 28, green 5, green 8 among others) and then either mix in the lye water for a solid colored bar or if I am swirling, use oxides/ultramarines. They seem to bleed less than the fd&c. After I have a dye blend that I like, I mix a batch in a dropper bottle.Some dyes are oil or glycerin dispersible, therefore, use oil or glycerin. Use appropriate preservative.I haven't seen the inci info for pop colors, although I have looked, haven't found. If anyone has the info, it wouldn't be hard to mix them up yourself. (On a stinker note, if the company is keeping them secret, I have a bit of a problem with this because they are intended to be used on the skin and want to know if there is anything that I may be allergic to. I'm allergic to some of the oxides.) If anyone has the inci info, could you pass it along? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMori Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Forgot...Micas are made by taking a mica sub-straight (the mineral) and applying pigments and dyes. So, a blue mica that is colored with Blue 1 will turn pink or purple in cp soap. Keep this in mind if you are going to experiment. If the dye or pigment does funky things on its own, the mica made using that dye or pigment will do the same thing. The supplier should be able to give you information on what is in the particular mica.If you are using micas to make lipstick or eyeshadow, make sure those you experiment with are safe for lips or eyes. Not such a great concern, other than being skin safe, if you are using in soap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debk Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 No more PoP Colors??????? I am so sick about this. They are so true to color when soaping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I was just going through my stash and saw where I ordered multiples of all the colors but raspberry and green and those are the ones I'm low on. TKB hasn't found a replacement yet either. Shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara AL Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I think I will buy a few samples from The Conservatorie and test in soap to see if I can find some close to the Pop Colors.http://theconservatorie.com/category.php?cPath=1_9_35&view_all=1&max_pages=yesBarbara AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillenal Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I just got my order from the conservatorie but I have not tried any of them in soap yet. That is on my agenda for this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara AL Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Adillenal let me know what colors you have tried and if they morphed. I have a few I want to try but have decided on the colors yet.We can start making a list of the ones that work in CP soap.Barbara AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillenal Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) I only make goat milk soap so I may have different results than someone using water. GM does strange things sometimes but I am game to share my results. Edited March 23, 2011 by adillenal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara AL Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Thanks Adillenal I make GM soap too.Barbara AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-GRAN-ONES Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 is Peaks..Apple Green Pop..the same as TKB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara AL Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Ruth I have been wanting to try this one from The Conservatorie I think it will be a match to the Apple Pop Micahttp://theconservatorie.com/apple-green-mica-p-1010.html?osCsid=q2nuc557s7i1lhr7fthfmdnpo5Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-GRAN-ONES Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 have you ordered any yet?if so let us know how it does.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminousBoutique Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I havent done any testing yet but did order a bunch of oxides to test, black, brown, chrom green, orange, for non-vegans carmine might be an option, red oxide blue, red oxide 170, red oxide, yellow oxide...im going to give them all a shot, I'll update with results. been too busy to soap lately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Not sure whose Chromium green you have, but it does make a nice green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-GRAN-ONES Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Not sure whose Chromium green you have, but it does make a nice green.i agree scented...chromium green is a good color..you can put a touch of black mica and get diffrent shades.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminousBoutique Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 nice! I figured with a pearl mica I could tone it down too.. or maybe some TD. I read up on carmine and apparently its not PH safe, just poof its gone... so there goes that theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelb5499 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Any more news, substitution suggestions, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayougirl Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I just ordered some of the new neon colors from Bramble berry today. We'll see how they do once they get here. I still have my original pack of POP colors and still have a pretty good amount left, so I can see how they do side by side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelb5499 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Cool. I've never tried micas....just decided the other day that I'd buy TKB's pop micas because I've read on every post known to man on every forum I'm a part of that they are "the ones" and then of course, found out they were discontinued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soycrazy Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Anyone know where I can get a good orange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminousBoutique Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 red and yellow oxide worked well for me, there is an orange oxide too on TKB but I havent tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soycrazy Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 red and yellow oxide worked well for me, there is an orange oxide too on TKB but I havent tried it.Oh thanks! I tried yellow oxide before and it seemed muddy. I didn't even know they had orange oxide lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 how orange do you want? I do like the one at TKB that is an orange oxide, but it isn't a bright and shiny orange. I think you could mix some into TKB's neon orange and be happy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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