FuzzyCandleMaker Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 I made this recipe last night and really like it. I subsituted mango butter for the shea. It goes on really nice and moisturizes great! Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah-soy Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I found a great tip so you're butter won't go grainy and have been using it for my body butters and lotion bars for years. It's eliminated all graininess. The tip is:to melt your butters on high in 1 min. intervals until melted then continue to micro another 3-5 minutes on low (this is the part that eliminates the grains)Also, pertaining to nut allergies. Shea butter is obtained from the shea nut so it may also be a problem for those with nut allergies.I also make my own lip balms and use cosmetic grade soy wax instead of beeswax to appeal to those that prefer vegan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Ahsoy, when you say to continue melting on low for 3-5 minutes, how much SB are you melting? I'm trying to guage how long to hold it at a low temp.I would love to find a way to keep grainiess away! It disappointed me when I made this into a lotion bar, it developed grains. The lip balm did not. Leads me to think the cool down is playing a part... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaColo Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 I remember reading that the key to avoiding graininess in shea is a quick cool down in the fridge. If you look under shea butter, it has more informationhttp://www.thesage.com/catalog/FixedOil.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 One more question. If this is a replica of a base, can I use this is a base? I mena, can I make a bunch, then use it bit by bit as needed? If so, how do I do that? Just remelt? I've never used a base before so I'm not sure how to use them.Christina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 If this is a replica of a base, can I use it as a base (as in, store it and use what I need)?Christina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 sure you can - and yup, remelt. But make a small batch first and play with it. Things don't always turn out as you would anticipate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerina Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Well... I certainly plan on it, lol... if you seen my post about how I MEANT to only make a 1/4 of it and ended up putting the entire amount of SAO- you could understand, lol. I can't stand the thought of wasting so I had to go back and add in the rest of the full ingredients for an 80 tube batch. So I have 80% of it still in a tupperware waiting for me to get some lotion tubes. I will then remelt and use it up. Cuz the way I figure it, yes this is the same as a premade base... only we are making it. Surely you wouldn't have to use up a premade base with in the first melting or two right? I've never used one or read how to but I'm feeling pretty safe, lol. It would be really nice ... and so helpful if someone who uses a base can tell us exactly what they do. That is if they do small amts at a time. How do you measure it out- do you just scoop it out and melt however much you need, slap the lid back on and forget about it till you need more?? Color me curioius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidsngarden Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 I've never done this with balm - have only made soap and lotion bars. But for soap I make a master batch of oils and I would imagine it works the same. just make the big batch without flavor oils, then put it in a container. You can scoop it out measuring by weight the amount you want melt it down, and add the flavor oil.This is what I plan to do as even with my decent digital scale measure miniscule amounts is a pain!Bethany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I've never done this with balm - have only made soap and lotion bars. But for soap I make a master batch of oils and I would imagine it works the same. just make the big batch without flavor oils, then put it in a container. You can scoop it out measuring by weight the amount you want melt it down, and add the flavor oil.This is what I plan to do as even with my decent digital scale measure miniscule amounts is a pain!BethanyI do as Bethany suggests and it works very well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmsojka Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Okay, this has me intrigued. I am a lover of BCN lip balm base, have been using it for years with no problem.Is it still working, Spellkast? I am going to try this base, soon. I have all the ingredients so won't be a big deal. I am also looking for a home made lip gloss, so adding castor oil will make this glossy? The idea of this for a lotion bar sounds good too. I think the BCN base is awful thick for a lotion bar, would like something a little softer, but work in a tube.Man, I love this board. Something I just discovered was a suggested offering of $10 a year? I didn't notice that before, I am more than glad to pay that. The information on here is priceless.Thanks to all who contribute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerina Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 The gloss I made out of this took quite a bit of not only added castor oil but also of the other liquid oil (Apricot Kernel Oil in my case) I may have even added more of the veg. glycerin. But it was the first experiment I attempted so i'm not so sure how 'great' it is, but I like it... I'm still using what I made that day, lol. I also made another batch from some of the home made base I pulled out and tried to do the same thing with, but it still acts a bit more like a tub balm texture. It doesn't look as pretty in the applicator bottles, lol... but it still melts on contact with the lips and has a nice feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnhorsemom Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I'm just about out of my last batch of lip balms and thought I would try this recipe since everyone seems to really like it. I have everything but the fractionated coconut oil. Is there anything I can use in place of that? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBrat Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 She says in her recipe that if you don't have FC you can use 8oz of SAO instead of 4oz of it. hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atracybrat Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Tried this recipe for lip balm tubes. It was firm enough for the tubes, not grainy, however its a tad oily/greasy/shiny for my personal like.. any ideas what to increase or decrease? thanks.. tracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggy Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 I would like to try this recipe also. I am new to B&B products and have just been using bases so I don't have any of the butters and oils. Do most of them have to be ordered from suppliers or are they available in stores? I know I can get Vit E and castor oil locally. I have the BC base and 2 flavor oils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysj Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I made some of this earlier today. I subbed cocoa butter for the mango and used jojoba oil. This is the smoothest, creamiest lip balm I've ever used. This is definitely going to be my recipe from now on. The other recipe I tried had too much of a waxy feel to it. You can get cocoa butter at Walgreens it comes in a one ounce tube. The other butters are the one's you're probably going to have to order online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnhorsemom Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 OK, I sorta made this recipe. I used mango instead of shea and for the oils I used sunflower and jojoba. I gave out some samples to friends this weekend so we will see what feedback I get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidsngarden Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I made this and found it a little drying. I didn't use shea, subbed it for more Cocoa butter, used all SAO for the liquid oils. I think I will try it next time taking out the coconut oil and subbing shea or mango, OR doing all cocoa butter for the hard oils.Bethany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlyunique Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Bitter Creek North it is a supplier:-)Okay, I am officially curious....what is BCN? lol Is this a dumb question? Am I out of the loop? :smiley2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnie Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Oh My, I am gonna have to try this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantnaturals Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 So, I've been using the lip balm base from BCN, which I LOVE!!! But, despite its inexpensiveness, I'm always trying to save a buck and have tried to make lip balm from scratch. I've tried a couple of recipes and I finally found one I like as much -if not MORE- than BCN'S!!! It goes on smooth, and seems to be helping my chapped lips more because I think it stays on longer than BCN's (maybe that's because I eat it off within five minutes.) Anyway, here it is, and if anyone tries it, let me know how you like it!!!4 oz. beeswax4 oz. coconut oil1 oz. shea butter3 oz. cocoa butter4 oz. sweet almond oil (or 8 oz. if you don't use fractionated coconut oil)4 oz. coconut oil (fractionated)Melt everything in the microwave (or however you wish) and add your flavor oil and you're done!! This makes roughly 80 lip balm tubes worth of lip balm, so I made 1/4 of this to make 20 lip balms. I used MMS's buttercream at 6 mL, and it tastes wonderful! I hope all of you BCN addicts try this!!! MichelleAre these liquid or weight measurements?Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 weight, always weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantnaturals Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Oh good! I just made this recipe and weighed everything out on my brand new handy dandy digital scale. I probably should have asked before hand! lol Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloresse Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 To revive this thread a bit..... if you are making the recipe for LOTION BARS, isn't it supposed to be something like equal parts oils and butters? Then simply add a bit of wax to harden up the bar? I like lotion bars in the push up tubes. Anyone used Grapeseed oil in their lotion bar recipe? I like it b/c it's so light and soaks in quickly. Also, I've seen some folks using corn starch or Natrasorb in their lotion bars. This is to cut the greasy feel I am guessing. Anyone have experience with what your customers think of that addition? Please share or PM me if you have suggestions. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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