kidsngarden, thanks for your input. I hear ya on the GM thing. I also freeze my GM. I mainly HP, and during my recent return to CP for swirling purposes, I've confirmed why I went to HP... due to the ash, gawd, I hate it, lol. But anyway, today I did a GM soap and didn't HP it afterwards. I even put it in the fridge to keep it from gelling (first time doing that), lol. Oh, and I even put Glad wrap over it. It seems to have stayed nice and white so far, with a nice swirl in it. So we'll see. Now I just dread that friggin ash, sigh. Carebear, thanks for your input also. I did find through my searching that there are a couple different ways to soap RT. That only made it worse, lol. Also, when I soap, both my lye and my oils are the same temp. The lye is not cooler than the oils. But I have actually seen recipes where they had the lye temp cooler than the oils and thought, wow, that's asking for trouble. So it's good you mentioned it so any newbies will know about it.