WOW I'm learning a TON from this thread- from using different oils to how many 7lbm jugs will fit in one CF box! :DGran- thanks for that info. Especially the estimated shipping, since I'm also in CA and really need to order some oils, that is really great to know.Also, on the palm, from what I understand, if you DON'T have the no stir type, you should be stirring it each time (if it gets slushy to liquidy) b/c the stearic will separate from it.HTH