Fireside

Melts wax used: 4625, 4786, KY 133 (Problend 450), 4625/4630 fragrance load (%): 10% average cure time: 1 week Wax additives: none Cold throw: excellent Hot Throw: excellent Purchased: 2017 The most realistic and strongest I have found. Blindfolded customers would think you're holding the box up to their nose rather than a product.

Melts wax used: 4625/4786, CBL 129, KY 133 (Problend 450), 4625/4630 fragrance load (%): 10% average cure time: 1 week Wax additives: none Cold throw: excellent Hot Throw: excellent Purchased: 2017 My absolute most favorite pumpkin bread! Next in line that is similar but less zucchini for those who hate zucchini blends would be WSP pumpkin bread.

Melts wax used: 4625/4627 fragrance load (%): 10% average cure time: 1 week Wax additives: none Cold throw: excellent Hot Throw: excellent Purchased: 2018 The best BBW dupe I have found so far.

Melts wax used: 4625, 4786, 4794, 4630, Candlesource tart, 415, 464 fragrance load (%): 10% average cure time: 1 week, 2 for soy Wax additives: none Cold throw: excellent in all Hot Throw: excellent in paraffin, not as good in soy but still acceptable Purchased: 2018 More of a maple undertone, but still such a strong and yummy bakery type oil.

Melts wax used: 4625, 4786 fragrance load (%): 10% average cure time: 1 week Wax additives: none Cold throw: excellent Hot Throw: excellent Purchased: 2018 Even though this oil throws well, I may actually like NG Mrs. Claus Cookies version better and it is cheaper than WSP.

Melts wax used: 4625 fragrance load (%): 10% average cure time: 1 week Wax additives: none Cold throw: excellent Hot Throw: excellent Purchased: 2018 Tart lime juice and sea salt to my nose, just like the name! Careful how close you cold sniff this one as it burned my nose hairs strong

Melts wax used: 4625, 4786, CBL 141, CBL 125 fragrance load (%): 10% average cure time: 1 week Wax additives: none Cold throw: excellent Hot Throw: excellent Purchased: 2018 Another one that could be used at a lower %, so strong and very fruity! Less on the banana and more on the pineapple to my nose.

Melts wax used: 4625, 4786 fragrance load (%): 10% average cure time: 1 week Wax additives: none Cold throw: excellent Hot Throw: excellent Purchased: 2018 This definitely could be used at a lower %, so strong and great for those fruity lovers!

Melts wax used: 4625, 4786, CBL 141, 4627 fragrance load (%): 10% average cure time: 1 week Wax additives:none Cold throw: excellent Hot Throw: excellent Purchased: 2018 The best, most true jelly doughnut smell you can get. To my nose, it has the dough, the tart jelly and the sweet powdered sugar.

Melts wax used: 4625, 4786 fragrance load (%): 10% average cure time: 1 week (but doesn't need that long) Wax additives: none Cold throw: great Hot Throw: great Purchased: 2018

Is this new? I have always seen a maple and a pumpkin pancake, but not together..yumm! Going to check it out now

Description reads: "Natural Pillar/Votive Wax makes beautiful free standing candles. Available in pellet form for easy handling, the wax is a mixture of the finest Palm and Coconut oils resulting in candles with an excellent burn and scent throw. This product does not contain any paraffin." Has anyone stuck with this over the years and love it?

So for those throwing in some wax with the oil directly on the warmer... Does this mean you get a great long throw without melting the wax and binding it to the oil initially, then left to cure as we do with tarts?

Do let us know how it goes

Interesting, but maybe this person will not be as lucky with all oils.

Agreed...found this out the hard way when all of my wax was sweating oils weeks later and not from the FO load, it resolved upon adding at higher temperatures (same FO %).

Not really, this from CS was MANY years ago and several suppliers still carry palm. You will find SOMETHING about EVERY wax good and bad. You either stick to what you know and stand behind your product for reasons you chose it in the first place OR you go along with the soy "all natural" false information hype just to avoid confrontation/educating your customers. There are many threads on here upon a search regarding this article.

AGREED, along with CW blends.

So far I am finding palm to throw just as good as paraffin with good oils. Sarah, you think 125 is better for bakery I see. So you do all bakery in 125 and the rest in palm as 2 separate candle lines? What do your customers tend to go for the most?

AGREED

I have sent some melts to 8 coworkers in many different scents, one being PPW and one pumpkin pancakes. What can I say, I like pumpkin oils 🤷‍♀️ I just asked them (without them knowing why I asked). They ALL say PPW and pumpkin pancakes are totally different. PPW has a more sharp, almost nutty note whereas pumpkin pancakes is a warmer, more spiced/cinnamon type note.

Thank you both! Yes, upon many weeks of research on palm ...Candybee comes up quite often and she knows her stuff. That is how I knew to start with CSN and I sure am appreciative on the chandlers who share their experience. Even though we all usually end up with different outcomes in this craft, it is nice to have a starting point. The premiers I already had lying around and seen some on here have tried it with palm for a "more behaved" flame so I figured why not. The CSN can be...well which we all know. Time will tell I guess

So Candybee you feel the appearance difference is worth the extra expense of GG vs CW I assume? I feel that all palm looks beautiful so if the performance and throw is merely identical, I do not mind saving a bit per case. I see they also carry RRD wicks which I am currently comparing to CSN and Premier. It would be nice to get wicks at the same place as wax to combine shipping. However, I will use what is best performance and not what is more convenient if it is a huge difference. I understand CS has CSN wicks made specifically for palm and that each wick has a different coating but I have debated on trying CDN. I wonder if CDN is very close to CSN...just CSN with CS name on it. All we can do is test for ourselves, but I surely would not want to get the CDN if they are close to CSN due to shipping costs for such a small test. Thank you for your info Candybee!

Sarah, do you feel the CW container palm compares to glass glow? So you use 2 different waxes in your candles and customers do not seem to mind?