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Ok, let's try another link instead The original FO load for this scent blend was 13% in soy/coconut (it's a bit softer but very nice). The HTP 73 burns through the whole candle with a good flame and a good hot throw. Cold throw was perfect (commercial/industry standard). Taking it down to 10% with 25% paraffin compromised the cold throw but improved the hot throw (due to the paraffin). I could always try 8% but I'm afraid it will weaken the cold throw . You mentioned that I could try CDN8 and it burns like HTP 83? Is that correct? I'm getting too hot with HTP 73 and I would certainly get crazy hot with HTP 83? Shouldn't I get lower in numbers with the CDN's? Then try CD 7, 8 and 10?

This is how the HTP 73 burns with 25% paraffin https://streamable.com/qnpmk

With 25% paraffin, the 73 is great the first 6-7 hours of the candle. Then the flame starts to dance and gets pretty high with a bit less HT, could still do with it but it's not optimal as before. FO load was 12% before and I lowered it to 10% with the paraffin. It's the 8oz jam jar so the diam of the candle gets smaller as it's burning down. Southwest candle supply doesn't have any CDN's under 10. Candle Cocoon has CDN 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 20, 22 but is missing 5 in the series. I'm thinking to try CD 7, 8 and 10? Would you say CDN 8 and 10 to try for HTP 72 & 73? I found this chart but there it looks more like CDN 5, 6 and 7 (even though I can't buy CDN 5 here in the states) but it might be off? Next step could be to lower the paraffin to 20% if that would help and up the FO to 11%? Sorry for all the questions, but do you think there will be a continuous supply of CDN wicks? Has it been easy for you to find them all these years you have been using them? I'm currently testing right now the HTP 72 with 30% paraffin.

I'm switching from my soy/coconut blend to a mix of soy/coconut and paraffin. My HTP wicks stopped to work as perfect as before when I switched the blend a bit .. I'm now stuck with needing something in between HTP 72 and 73. I've seen that CD and HTP are supposed to be 'sort of' the same type of wick? This is a comparison chart between them, even though it's really old HTP-31, CD-4 HTP-41, CD-5 HTP-52, CD-6 HTP-62, CD-7 HTP-73, CD-8 HTP-83, CD-10 HTP-93, CD-12 HTP-104, CD-14 HTP-105, CD-16 HTP-126, CD-18 HTP-1212, CD-20 HTP-1313, CD-22 I'm thinking maybe to test the CD7 and CD8, but are they the same or could I strike a lucky one and get it right in between 72 and 73. CDN seems to be harder to get hold of but might work better in vegetable waxes, I'm playing with 20% to 30% of paraffin in the blend to fix the soy problems we have right now with the soy waxes. Have anyone tested CD vs HTP vs CDN to see if they do the same thing but gives more options? I really like how the HTP performs, it seems to work well all around for me. Both manufacturers have completely different charts which don't add up at all, but they might do completely different tests and use different waxes.

I was looking for a "fragrance wheel" and googled that, there is a fair few ones so check it out and pick one that works for you. Then you can change it a bit so it works for how you look for things etc.

Thanks... I'll put this up here also if it helps someone.. This is what I used to categorize the scents

Here's how we have it... I got a bit of OCD with our samples so I put a color dot on each top of them so we can easily just clean off and put them back after blending. Life got so much less complicated after we did that

Can you order online from Accu-Blend and in which quantities? I get my Coconut-83 wax from California Candle Supply but they don't seem to stock Apricot-74. I'm also keen on trying this since soy wax has gotten worse and worse.

Thanks, they should be good to go then since it's gone 5 days.

Hi, How long does unscented soy need to cure? For some reason, I have never done an unscented candle and always let scented soy candles cure 10-14 days. But if I don't put any fragrance in the soy wax, when can I test burn the candle?

I'll put pictures of a line we did for s shop in New Orleans with the old CS tumblers before they changed the painting of them ....

I will try and call them to see if they are different than CS... Thanks for pointing me to these Shipping is double the price of Candle Science's shipping but maybe they are offering pickup from our own courier.

Yeah I got samples with all the colors a long time ago... I think it's a personal preference, nothing wrong with them but I like the jars straight and more simple. And then full black and full white painted.

These actually looks like CS but bigger... http://www.candlesandsupplies.net/10-oz-Straight-Jar-per-case-36?sc=7&category=1828 Have you tried these, are they better than the CS ones?

I think these one's look pretty terrible and not classy https://www.glassnow.com/8-5oz-heavy-glass-votive And they are also not black or white... It's more of a hippy feel than classy feel.. I haven't found any other colored glass that I'm happy with except the CS ones.. But they are far from perfect either.

The problem is that there are NO black or white painted glass tumblers except the ones from CS that are decent. The Glassnow painted tumblers look terrible in my eyes and other painted glass I have found here in LA looks worse than the CS ones... We were waiting for the new ones from CS for our client and he had a look when they came and said, NO... We are bringing tumblers over all the way from Australia for him for this order

They are great for throw, always punches through... Many of them can give me a "headache" feel to it. So I burn and test a lot before I use them. Haven't burned it yet either

Fresh Squeezed Oranges from Rustic smells just like it in my opinion.

Thanks, We have a lot of their aroma chemicals for blending perfume but they do carry a lot of really good fragrance oils also which we haven't tried in candles. I spoke to the lady who runs it before and she told me she doesn't have much knowledge about candles but her customers have reported that they use some of her stuff in candles. I just did a tester today of one of their premium FO's in a soyblend.

CandleScience has always been nice to me... They are hands down the quickest when it comes to pack and ship out their stuff and they have the best prices there is in this business for the quality you get.. This compared to many other suppliers that sometimes sit and wait 4 days until they put the order in a box and sends it off (which amazes me as they have much higher prices). One of the products I and they have been struggling with is their straight-sided painted tumblers... They have been very upfront with that and have refunded anything that has been inconsistent with me. Always very friendly customer support. I don't know how their testing works. They recommend 6% in soy wax for fragrance load which gives you a pretty weak candle overall ... so ... I was told that only a fraction of people have reached out to them and the complaints have only been if the wax is rancid. But if you look at the recent reviews on their site it's a different story. So I'm with you there, something is fishy I posted a review regarding the 444 wax, I urge anyone else who has any problems with the GB waxes to do the same.. I think that's the only way the problem can be looked into. I understand they are a middleman in this and I doubt the manufacturer would say they shipped one year of badly performing wax to all the crafters in America. I'm switching to a blend for our line, which means I have to reprint $1000 worth of stickers, but I'd rather do that than sell candles that don't throw or have other weird problems. 2017 has been a weird year... I've lost some money and also taken the decision to give up on the weekly market here in LA as they have been very unprofitable... My girlfriend work in the beauty industry and sales are DOWN. They just need to focus on buying nicely scented candles instead of reading the news Hoping for a better 2018!

I wonder if they are really honest about that - they told me that I'm the only one being concerned about the latest soywax situation....

Have anyone here tested their fragrance oils in candles with any good results (not their molecules)?

Yeah, I tried to pour when it's slushy also. Yes it's definitely better with 415 and 464 but 444 has the strongest cold throw for me so I'm sticking to it.

Yeah like this... I haven't been able to prevent this from happening ever with 444 in my jam jars. Different pour temps, heating up the jars etc... So I gave up and heatgun each of them which takes quite some time. Pretty much like this:

I totally agree... I think what I meant is that if someone is allergic they should look for a product that clearly states that it doesn't contain anything of what they are allergic too. Unfortunately, paraffin has such a bad reputation, and it's blown up out of proportion.