Thanks Steph, and there was me thinking it would be great not having to worry about wicking issues lol. Need to make these for my daughter she's a nightmare with candles and I'd hate to see her burn her house down, no matter how many times I tell her not to go to bed and leave them burning. Thought they would be ideal for her, she's just moved down to England and wanted to give her a nice house warming present, then decided what a great christmas pressie for my sister, mum and m-i-l. I shall continue to practise with these