SliverOfWax

Hey, wait a minute! I haven't even posted to this thread, and I'm the one so many newbies think is rude. What's with you people that you can't see the difference between rudeness and honesty? Are you so in need of having your hands held and your feathers constantly fluffed that you can't take the truth? Does every bit of advice have to be tempered with stroking to be considered acceptable? Some people here don't have time to baby people every step of the way. When oldtimers tell you something and you think it's rude, you should pay attention instead of whine. And by the way, only you can make yourself look like a dumbass. OK, ChrisR, back to you now.....

Unless you intend to pull a week's worth of 24 hour shifts, it will take you a lot longer than letting them sit for a week to test them. You do know about testing, don't you? That every new scent must be poured, cured, then burned top to bottom, sometimes several times to make sure you're using the right wick and amount of fo, before you can even think about labeling and selling/giving away? When planning on adding new scents, you should think in terms of months, not days.

If you need a previously untested fo by Saturday, how do you expect to get it in and tested by then? Or are you making a product that tends to not burn down houses? Tarts, maybe? Perhaps you could be more specific.

If you aren't having good luck with her scents, why would you want to buy more?

You will have to do a search and try to find the place closest to you. You do know you need to include shipping in the overall cost, don't you?

I don't think I would move too fast based on this information. Your first, sometimes second, and many times third burns are in no way indicative of how your candle will burn. Your first burn especially will tell you basically nothing. You will need to burn your tester top to bottom to get an idea if it's wicked correctly. Also, if your container is tapered, and even if it isn't, going by this information you will most likely get much too large of a melt pool and a very hot container by the time you're half done or toward the bottom. Your best course of action is to pick a single container, choose a variety of wicks and start somewhere, anywhere, keep very accurate records, and start testing. Yes, you can melt the wax, pull out the old wick and insert a new wick. But remember, you must test from top to bottom, so any wax used in the test burns will need to be replaced. "Sell" is a word that should not even been in your vocabulary at this point.

The next 1-oz sample you try, use it with 15 oz of wax. That would equate to about 6%. Which, imo, still really often isn't enough. I rarely use less than 7%. I like my candles to knock my socks off.

One oz of fo in 20 oz of wax will rarely be enough. There are a handful of suppliers who have strong and complex enough scents to get away with that percentage. Apparently, the fo you used is not one of those. 6% would be roughly 1.2 oz, and that's generally the bare minimum. The wick absolutely can and will affect the throw. It is at least as important as using quality fo. You can use the best fo you can get your hands on, but if it's not properly wicked, you could wind up with zero. Your experience states very clearly why oob and cold reviews are worthless. Coming from Peak, I'm sure your fo is fine. If you haven't already, you might want to buy a sample pack of wicks. You will have to play around until you find the right combo. Isn't testing fun?

Who are you buying fo from? There are vast differences between suppliers. Buy samples and test for yourself. Don't go by price and don't go by what others say. Many waxes hold more than 6%. It wouldn't hurt to bump up the fo load and see if your results are improved.

When there's a dispute, no matter how minor, it's best to have it in writing. That's just smart business.

I have probably saved more lives then you have ever made candles. Let's just hope you don't start killing more lives than you've saved by selling poorly made candles. Your posts are difficult to decipher. I'm not sure if this forum has a spellcheck.

December 1st of what year? Are you becoming a supplier? Or are you ordering supplies November 28 and hoping to pour candles to sell by December 1 of this year? If so, keep 9-1-1 on speed dial. You can order supplies from whomever you wish. Ordering from one supplier is not going to interfere with supplies you order from someone else any more than buying from Sears would affect a purchase you made at JCPenny. Thankfully, this is America. santa chee

It is a Bath & Body Works duplicate. The #1 post has a link to the Fragrance Finder. Lots of suppliers carry this scent. Lots of suppliers have a description. You can easily find it if you look on the Fragrance Finder.

Forgive my assumption, but are you just now learning to make candles? If so, you will need to leave that wax melted a very long time while you test each scent, each container, each wick. It could be not just weeks but months before you start to pour a finished product. A double boiler and a pour pot would serve your needs much better until you get your basic testing finished. Each new scent will have to be started from scratch. That's a lot of wax to keep melted for testing purposes.

Is the same client as the upscale underwear place? If not, maybe they can help you.

That seems serious enough to me that I might have approached management and alerted them. Can you hear it on the news? Entire family dead. Fire caused by home-made candle purchased at XYZ craft show.

lol, I can't tell if you're bragging or complaining. Perhaps it's time to cut back. I wouldn't do it if I didn't really enjoy it.

just shows you that when the lord closes a window he opens a door. yuo might try something besides cinnamon. It's a bitch.

I'm dying of curiosity. What is it about your candle that's so unique that you want to protect it? A wax blend? A scent blend? The Virgin Mary? just kidding...

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Nature's Garden is complex?? Isn't that the company that takes the same scent and gives it more than one name? That's what I've read somewhere.

Much ado about nothing. I got the feeling that you think whoever doesn't respond has zero integrity. If you've got something to say, spit it out. You're among friends. We'll try to help you.

It is not possible to have been making candles for even 10 months and not have known or seen this propaganda. It's been covered on this forum hundreds of times. In the last month. Jeez!

It doesn't matter who the manufacturer is. Good suppliers have their own scents formulated especially for them. They test them in-house before ever putting them out for sale. A supplier might go through several forumulations before selecting the one they ultimately choose. At that point, the manufacturer can not sell that specific formula to any other supplier. In a nutshell, even scents with the exact same name can vary widely from supplier to supplier. You will never get a manufacturer to duplicate that formula for yourself. Unfortunately, there are a handful of suppliers who never do their own testing, or perhaps worse, have their minions and mouths test for them, in the hopes of getting more and more freebies. We know who they are.

geekrunner is correct. It's not a marketing ploy. It's merely the differences in waxes today and the waxes of yesteryear, and the amount of fo the wax will hold. Since most buyers of candles don't know any of this, you can market your candles as triple-scented if you use 9% fo. If your wax can hold 9%, and most container waxes do, your candle will burn perfectly fine. Waxes nowdays have additives to allow more oil to be used. Years ago, candles didn't smell nearly as strong or last nearly as long as they do tday. A candle was a candle. Today, if properly made, a candle can scent an entire home, not just a single small room. 3%: single scented. 6%: double scented. 9%: triple scented.