Nickie Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I have ordered around 60 oils from Flaming Candle for testing and I am not having much luck getting hot throw out of most of them. It is really hit or miss with all of the ones I have tried, but most are misses. What is your experience with Flaming Candle Oils? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I use several of their oils with great success. I use 6006 and/or 4630. What wax are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickie Posted May 6, 2017 Author Share Posted May 6, 2017 I am still in the testing phase and have been for nearly a year. Still testing with several wax combos. But it is looking like my wax blend will be 4797 votive and 4630. I have tried 6006 and I can't get that wax to work for me (and it's too bad cause I really love it). I have had a few successes with flaming candle oils in the above waxes, but mostly duds. I would say it's about 1 success for every 10 failures. Again, I have purchased tons of oils from them. I am heating to 200, adding frangrance at 180-185, pouring around 160. I'm testing in both 13w and 20w burners. I have a very wide open space, but I am able to get other vendor wax/frangrance to throw in my house, so I know it's possible. I'm really at a point where I'm frustrated and don't know what to do. Thanks for helping me! 3 hours ago, bfroberts said: I use several of their oils with great success. I use 6006 and/or 4630. What wax are you using? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelyscents Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I am also still in the testing phases. However, I could not get birthday cake from them to throw for me and my sister reported back that it wasnt great in her home either. Looking back at my notes, their zucchini bread and vanilla b crunch threw decent. Their toasted marshmallow was ok as well, but is missing something to my nose. I may go back and try it again though as it has over 30 great reviews on that one. In all fairness, it may be because they are one of the first I started with for testing, so it may have been my technique and/or wax combos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcandles Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I've ordered FO's from The Flaming Candle with no success I've had maybe a couple that had a good hot throw out of 10. But I'm just a beginner and maybe it's the wick I use, eco 14 and 464 wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I have never used 4797, so I can't speak to that. For tarts, I use 4625/4630 blend or 4625/6006, and about 8% FO load. Heat to 185, add FO, remove from heat, stir 1-2 minutes. I use 25w bulb warmers and Glade warmers. I can tell you with a certainty that with one of the other of those blends the following scents from TFC throw very well: Blue Sugar, Patchouli Amber, Kentucky Bourbon, Amish Harvest, Falling Leaves, Pink Sands, Fruit Loops, Pumpkin Latte, Earthen Oak, Firewood, Wild Mtn. Honey, Woodland Foliage, Caribbean Salsa, Strawberries & Champagne, Flowering Boxwood, Hickory BBQ, Orange & Chili Pepper, Mediterranean Fig, Ocean Mist, Tea & Cakes, Pineapple Cilantro. That's all I can think of off the top of my head, but I have tried a lot from them. There are some misses, but no more so than any other company I've used. I order wicks, jars and sometimes wax from them, so I get a lot of samples. I don't test all of them in wax, some go in B&B or room sprays. Some of the florals are just lovely, but I think would be light in wax...Floral Muse is my favorite for aroma beads and sprays. Sandalwood Rose is beautiful, but light in wax. Same for a couple of the Jo Malone dupes. Their Butt Naked is weird, and Raspberry Jam was a recent dud for me. I love the Tobacco Caramel, but I can't get a strong candle out of it no matter how hard I try. It does pretty well in tarts though. My tarts do benefit from a cure, even 100% paraffin. I don't know if it's the wax or maybe my nose just needs a break, but it does seem to help. Are you testing them immediately? Or maybe you have candle nose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen M Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 On 5/6/2017 at 9:07 PM, bfroberts said: I have never used 4797, so I can't speak to that. For tarts, I use 4625/4630 blend or 4625/6006, and about 8% FO load. Heat to 185, add FO, remove from heat, stir 1-2 minutes. I use 25w bulb warmers and Glade warmers. I can tell you with a certainty that with one of the other of those blends the following scents from TFC throw very well: Blue Sugar, Patchouli Amber, Kentucky Bourbon, Amish Harvest, Falling Leaves, Pink Sands, Fruit Loops, Pumpkin Latte, Earthen Oak, Firewood, Wild Mtn. Honey, Woodland Foliage, Caribbean Salsa, Strawberries & Champagne, Flowering Boxwood, Hickory BBQ, Orange & Chili Pepper, Mediterranean Fig, Ocean Mist, Tea & Cakes, Pineapple Cilantro. That's all I can think of off the top of my head, but I have tried a lot from them. There are some misses, but no more so than any other company I've used. I order wicks, jars and sometimes wax from them, so I get a lot of samples. I don't test all of them in wax, some go in B&B or room sprays. Some of the florals are just lovely, but I think would be light in wax...Floral Muse is my favorite for aroma beads and sprays. Sandalwood Rose is beautiful, but light in wax. Same for a couple of the Jo Malone dupes. Their Butt Naked is weird, and Raspberry Jam was a recent dud for me. I love the Tobacco Caramel, but I can't get a strong candle out of it no matter how hard I try. It does pretty well in tarts though. My tarts do benefit from a cure, even 100% paraffin. I don't know if it's the wax or maybe my nose just needs a break, but it does seem to help. Are you testing them immediately? Or maybe you have candle nose? Is that Kentucky Bourbon a good scent? I always wanted a great bourbon/whiskey scent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandlekrazy Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I've had great success with Flaming oils. I use C3 and 1 oz pp. I mostly make melts so I really haven't tested any but 2 of the oils in candles and they were 2 of the strongest in melts. I've probably used about 25 of their scents in melts, a few are mixers but I haven't trashed any so far. Kentucky Bourbon to me is not a great bourbon scent, but it sells like crazy for me so I'm leaving it with the name and with no mixer. I bought Bourbon Soaked Raisins in my last order but have yet to test it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Kentucky bourbon seemed light to me. I fell in love with the bourbon soaked raisins in the last craftserver swap. It is delicious in my C3 blend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 To my nose, Kentucky Bourbon is a vanilla with a little bit of whiskey in the background. It sells well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy511 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Does anyone rename Bourbon Soaked Raisins? Does anyone have a suggestion for a different name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 On 5/10/2017 at 9:02 PM, Karen M said: Is that Kentucky Bourbon a good scent? I always wanted a great bourbon/whiskey scent. Karen, it's just like Kentucky Bourbon for real.....In 464 it is Super! Trappeur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 On 5/6/2017 at 3:51 PM, Nickie said: I have ordered around 60 oils from Flaming Candle for testing and I am not having much luck getting hot throw out of most of them. It is really hit or miss with all of the ones I have tried, but most are misses. What is your experience with Flaming Candle Oils? Nickie, If you could give us more info I'm sure a lot could offer suggestioins.... What wax are you using. What is your procedure of how you make your candles, ie: pour temperature - what temp do you add oil - did your wax cure? - what style jars and wicks are you usiing? Flaming is my main supplier and I have a lot of great results with lots of their oils....but like with any and all companies, they all have hits and misses. 60 oils seems an awfrul lot to not have good results. Trappeur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickie Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 I am still in the testing phase. But it is looking like my final blend with he as follows: 4796 and 4630 at 40/60 or KY tart and 4630 20/80 i have tested their oils in about 12 different waxes. But again, the above looks like it will be my blends. I am about the go into the final getting phase. I am not having the same frangrance oil problems with RE oils....just an FYI. I am making tarts. Heat to 200 add frangrance between 180-175. Pour around 160. I let them cure for a couple of days before testing. Min 48 hours and Max of 2-3 weeks. Hope this helps answer my question cause I would love to use Flaming Candle as much as possible, as I love their customer service. I recently had a long convo with another tart maker on this platform and she too was having problems getting hot throw with FC oils but not with RE oils. Thanks for your help! On 5/12/2017 at 9:14 AM, Trappeur said: Nickie, If you could give us more info I'm sure a lot could offer suggestioins.... What wax are you using. What is your procedure of how you make your candles, ie: pour temperature - what temp do you add oil - did your wax cure? - what style jars and wicks are you usiing? Flaming is my main supplier and I have a lot of great results with lots of their oils....but like with any and all companies, they all have hits and misses. 60 oils seems an awfrul lot to not have good results. Trappeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickie Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 On 5/6/2017 at 9:07 PM, bfroberts said: I have never used 4797, so I can't speak to that. For tarts, I use 4625/4630 blend or 4625/6006, and about 8% FO load. Heat to 185, add FO, remove from heat, stir 1-2 minutes. I use 25w bulb warmers and Glade warmers. I can tell you with a certainty that with one of the other of those blends the following scents from TFC throw very well: Blue Sugar, Patchouli Amber, Kentucky Bourbon, Amish Harvest, Falling Leaves, Pink Sands, Fruit Loops, Pumpkin Latte, Earthen Oak, Firewood, Wild Mtn. Honey, Woodland Foliage, Caribbean Salsa, Strawberries & Champagne, Flowering Boxwood, Hickory BBQ, Orange & Chili Pepper, Mediterranean Fig, Ocean Mist, Tea & Cakes, Pineapple Cilantro. That's all I can think of off the top of my head, but I have tried a lot from them. There are some misses, but no more so than any other company I've used. I order wicks, jars and sometimes wax from them, so I get a lot of samples. I don't test all of them in wax, some go in B&B or room sprays. Some of the florals are just lovely, but I think would be light in wax...Floral Muse is my favorite for aroma beads and sprays. Sandalwood Rose is beautiful, but light in wax. Same for a couple of the Jo Malone dupes. Their Butt Naked is weird, and Raspberry Jam was a recent dud for me. I love the Tobacco Caramel, but I can't get a strong candle out of it no matter how hard I try. It does pretty well in tarts though. My tarts do benefit from a cure, even 100% paraffin. I don't know if it's the wax or maybe my nose just needs a break, but it does seem to help. Are you testing them immediately? Or maybe you have candle nose? Thank you for all of this amazing info!! I ahve trued many many of the same you have, but I couldn't get a good throw on flowering boxwood, ocean mist, or blue sugar. I did get decent throw out of Kentucky Burbon and C. salsa. Sandwood Rose was one of my favs, but no throw on that one or Tobacco Caramel. I have tried your blend of 4630 with 4625 and I can't get much out of it. A couple of hours, maybe. The 4786 does better for me. It was the same with 6006 and 4625....in fact this blend was worse for me than the first blend you mentioned. I dont think its candle nose, I switch up frangrances frequently and can small OOTB. I will say, I have a very wide open space in which I am testing.....over 1000 sq ft. I am testing in 3 melters, 1oz of wax total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Is the air flow in the room sucking warm air up and out? Our whole house fan changes out the air pretty quickly in armor temps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 You've got something else going on because their Blue Sugar is strong as hell in pretty much any application. I cannot bear it after a while and have to turn it off. Caribbean Salsa is another strong one. Seriously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstar Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 On 5/10/2017 at 9:44 PM, kandlekrazy said: I've had great success with Flaming oils. I use C3 and 1 oz pp. I mostly make melts so I really haven't tested any but 2 of the oils in candles and they were 2 of the strongest in melts. I've probably used about 25 of their scents in melts, a few are mixers but I haven't trashed any so far. Kentucky Bourbon to me is not a great bourbon scent, but it sells like crazy for me so I'm leaving it with the name and with no mixer. I bought Bourbon Soaked Raisins in my last order but have yet to test it. OOB I looove Bourbon soaked raisins, Trapper turned me on to that one - its great ! The kentucky bourbon I didn't like as much.Hows it do in wax melts ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandlekrazy Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 9 hours ago, Moonstar said: OOB I looove Bourbon soaked raisins, Trapper turned me on to that one - its great ! The kentucky bourbon I didn't like as much.Hows it do in wax melts ? The Kentucky Bourbon is what I use in soy melts and it sells really well. I personally don't get it but hey, there's a scent for everyone and we don't all like the same. I've learned I need to make what I don't like, lol, hard lesson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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