leigha294 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 OMG i didnt see that part thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigha294 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 For future reference is there one that you prefer?? Reliable, trustworthy, good scents,embeds,wicks,gel ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcuset Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Actually, I don't use gel & embeds, just make tarts right now. But, I use a number of suppliers for fo & wax, etc. that have always shipped quickly & excellent products. Personally, I love Nature's Garden, Candle Science, Candle Cocoon, Miami Eerie, Kentucky Candle.....so many out there....& you may find you prefer others. Best wishes to you....perhaps this won't be all that bad once it's resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I'm lost. I thought this thread was about the dude in minnesota who was claiming he received bad stuff hoping for $$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 @CareBear...me too! I kept scrolling down reading about "embeds" and wondering what the heck it had to do with the scam? LOL! Thought I lost my marbles for a minute...checked my tea cup to make certain it was only tea in there!:smiley2:I keep looking at this post in the hopes that everything turns out OK for the folks on here who did get those letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcuset Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Yes, ladies, you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigha294 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Hey i have left 6 emails between 1/13/11 and today the site is a free one from yahoo and the credit card charge thing is Moellers marine and the phone that is given is a cell phone i was calling it and then it went to voice mail when at first it was ringing. anyway i am pretty sure it is a scam so beware people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcuset Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 (edited) I wish you well, Leigha, but you really do need to start a different thread. I know I will check on it if you do to see how things are going. Any news on the crazy man in MN writing scam letters? Edited January 30, 2011 by marcuset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accents Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I agree with marcuset. If you title the thread with the name of the company, someone's more likely to let you know if they've ever bought from them, too.I haven't heard anything from the post office, but filed my complaint online the same day as my last post. I'm so glad others are doing the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechcreekcandles Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 (edited) We got the same letter as well. I tracked his address to a phone number 320-235-0932 But there hasn't been an answer. When I do find this guy, he'll wish he'd never crossed paths with me. The address he gave was 312 9th st. NW Willmar MN 56201 Edited January 30, 2011 by beechcreekcandles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Would somebody be so kind as to post this guys name. He needs to be ratted out and another good avenue is to post it here for all who read this forum; members, nonmembers.. BTW-- thanks Beech Creek for posting his addy and phone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb426 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 if you use reverse look up on that phone number, his name will come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechcreekcandles Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 According to the return address we got with the letter, the name is Paul. A. Hanson I'm hoping someone isn't scamming this guy by using his name, but that's the name we got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldehearth Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I would love to send him a Jack in the Box toy scented with 'Misbehaving' fragrance.I hope he gets caught so please keep us posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlelady Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Boy, this man works quick. I just sold my candle biz on 1/12/11 and just last week, the NEW OWNERS got a letter from him at their PO Box that they just opened.They were getting ready to refund him, but she called me first. I told her about this thread.Thanks for sharing this info!Carrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orchid Lake Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 First... the followng did make me LOL!!!! Tell him it's one of those newfangled wickless candles and sell him a warmer.I am tempted to return a letter making such an offer... We just got the letter today (2/7/11) almost identical wording so I will be filling our a Post Office form also. I am not an atty, but it seems he may be trying to skirt regs by not actually demanding a refund or replacement product. bvk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldehearth Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) Wouldn't you know it, I got the exact same letter today and I'm in...Canada. I knew right away it was a scam when he stated the candle (the most expensive one on my site of course) did not have a wick. Goodness he certainly goes through great lengths handwriting these letters, sending them by postage mail and expecting something in return?But what gets me is that he's not demanding a replacement,credit or refund just an explanation on how a wick was missed in a candle given 'quality control checks'. It's almost like a trap for another trap.Seriously this guy needs to be stopped and why isn't he yet if he has been reported?I'm really thinking about sending him that jack in the box Edited March 1, 2011 by theoldehearth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 My guess is that he is preying on the fact that ppl will believe him and send him a refund. If he gets enough responses like that he can make a pretty good killing off the scam. All he has to do is send a copy of the same generic letter to thousands of addresses. He could be using bulk rate too. Good money for an easy job. Creep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernadette Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 A short time after this thread started, I noticed on my hidden counters that someone from Willmar, MN started visiting my site. Continues to at least once a week. First time in 9 years anyone from Willmar, MN ever visited my site, and since this jamoc is from there, I'm betting I'll be getting a letter soon too. I think he's perusing for something expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldehearth Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Well I've contacted the police department in that town where the scammer lives and send a picture of the letter & envelope. I told the department that several candle companies have been contacted so hopefully they will look into. Fraud is fraud no matter how big or small. It looks to me it's the work of an older person by the handwriting style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumina Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I received the same letter by email....but when the person mention jar candle, I had them.. I do not and never have sold candles in jars. I only sell in tins or pillars. So I knew it was a scam right away. I just laughed and deleted the email. But yes he did email me from my website.Cindy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernadette Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 You know, every year, there's a convention in Las Vegas called the Internet Hackers Convention. It lasts for a week!!!Supposedly, they discuss all forms of scams and ways of hacking. When I first heard about this, I thought how can law enforcement allow a convention like this? Hackers and scammers participate in all forms of FRAUD...isn't this illegal?I had a friend that was near the place they have it one year...somewhere on or near the Strip. They said all these people were walking around with laptops. Scary...now it's probably smart phones and Ipads!Anyway, I would not be surprised if these wise guys have a secret website where they post all kinds of scams that you could use. That may be why you got an email instead of the hard copy letter everyone else got, Lumina. Or it could be the guy in Willmar got caught by the Post Office... Who knows? I think it's all disgusting.:tiptoe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurcourt Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Hi, we're actually a tableware mfg., but found this forum when we received an odd, handwritten claim from a man in Willmar, MN, that was suspicious enough to research on line. Just as you described, the consumer [Paul Hanson at 312 9th St NW) said he received a defect item of ours at a gift exchange party -- in this case, a glass tray. He used the same verbage: "it was a rip off, useless, worthless and thrown away" and likewise expected "...a response and explanation on how this happened".Normally, we'd send a no charge replacement with a letter of apology, but of course will not do so now that we know this is a scam. Just wanted to let you know that he's not only targeting candle manufacturers. ShawnaCustomer Service, Arthur Court Designswww.arthurcourt.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Has anyone tried emailing him or writing him back saying you've forwarded his letter to the local authorities and informed your network of businesses. Seems to me he could use a little kick in the berries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfherb Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Like Arthur Court Designs, we received a similar letter from the same name and address in Willmar, asking for "a response and explanation on how this happened given your 'quality control checks'." Stumbled across this thread while attempting to verify address and look for a contact phone number. Assume that he stumbled across us as we do supply craft botanicals to candle-makers, but could be that - as with Arthur Court designs - he's simply moved to other business types as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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