TheWickedWick Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I'm looking for a salt/spa bar recipe that incorporates the salt into the entire bar and not just chunks. Anyone had any success with this and would care to share? Is this even possible with M&P? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I tend to do mine mostly on top of the bar but if you get a suspending melt and pour base then you could mix it throughout the bar. Try one bar and see what happens but I'd stay away from epsom salts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWickedWick Posted November 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Thanks for your help. I recently saw a short video at Go Planet Earth that demonstrated a pretty salt bar in a neat faceted jewel mold that seemed interesting. Might give it a shot..not that I need one more thing to do but would add an interesting item to offer.Thanks again.Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carriegsxr6 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 (edited) Do a search, I think others who have tried this, end up having a big mess on their hands. It seems the salt thins out the base too much and never re-hardens. You may have to also add a hardener like Steric Acid or something. Edited November 10, 2009 by Carriegsxr6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrochet Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Here is a recipe for a Salt Polishing Bar4oz soap base2 teaspoons fine sea salt1 teaspoon shea butter2 capsules vitamin EI have to tell you that i have never tried this recipe. If you try it i hope it works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustpuuppy Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Found this. It's not MP, but you might gleen something from it. I'm thinking if she's adding the sea salt at trace, then your idea should work ?Pictures on the site.The recipe:82.5% Coconut oil12.5% Avocado oil5% Castor oilMedium Size Sea Salt equal to the weight of oils15% Super Fat20% water discountI added the salt at trace and then poured into a wooden loaf mold and put into the oven preheated to 170*. Turned the oven off and left the soap in there for 1.5 hours then took out and cut. The salts were dyed with FD&C red # 33, which turned the whole bar a pick color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkydancer Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 The way I always did it with m&p is I used fine grain sea salt and added it to the soap when it was cool and then poured when it was even cooler and it suspended every time. I guess you could compare it to medium to thick trace with cp.Hope that helps...I think I need to go and make some salt bars- love em!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisasoaps Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 I made these a couple years ago. (green and blue bars)I waited for the soap to cool a bit then added a mix of sea and epsom salt. They were awesome for about 3 weeks then disaster struck. The soap started to melt from the inside out. I never delved into it again but would like to someday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Those are pretty! Too bad about them melting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustpuuppy Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 They were awesome for about 3 weeks then disaster struck. The soap started to melt from the inside out.Sounds like you got that recipe from a Detroit auto company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbla Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) I waited for the soap to cool a bit then added a mix of sea and epsom salt.The epsom salt was probably the culprit. It's been mentioned several times in threads here to not use that in m&p. Edited November 21, 2009 by Darbla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisasoaps Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Salt draws in moisture and M&P soap also has a tendancy to sweat so the 2 just dont do so well together. Once this soap hits the showers you can pretty much bank on it turning into a sloppy mess within a couple of days/weeks. This is just my opinion and experience. Maybe someone else has had some success that will chime in on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xraytech70 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Would using the low-sweat/no-sweat m&p bases be better for salt bars does anyone think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminousBoutique Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 maybe. but most if not all salt bars you see are CPOP soap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlycoat2 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 It is possible to make an mp salt bar, I have made one with the same principle as a cp salt bar only adding FBB to the mix as well. You will need to google to find suppliers of FBB but it makes this recipe in my opinion.The bar is hard, but not as hard as a cp bar and not as smooth. The salt added is normal table salt. The recipe is on another forum complete with descriptions of how to make the salt bar. The mp salt bar gives a similar lotion feel when used and sets up very quickly 20 minutes until you NEED to cut it. I have added coarse rock salt to the top only there is double the amount of salt to the mp used.I used a low sweat bar (cp like) yes and I still have the salt bars sitting here some 2 years later. Sex on the beach was the FO.Here are two photos of the one I madeit definitely is possible to make an mp salt bar yes.HTHjo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Those are lovely. Would you mind sharing the recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlycoat2 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Candy hi and thank you.The recipe is on another forum for all to see, its a forum run by BB . I dont know if I can actually say the forum name but its all about teaching soap.The only issue will be finding the FBB which apparently is no longer stocked by BB in the States but there are other suppliers. Its a lovely recipe and really does use a lot of salt mixed into the melted mp. Have a look and I am sure you will find it. jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Candy hi and thank you.The recipe is on another forum for all to see, its a forum run by BB . I dont know if I can actually say the forum name but its all about teaching soap.The only issue will be finding the FBB which apparently is no longer stocked by BB in the States but there are other suppliers. Its a lovely recipe and really does use a lot of salt mixed into the melted mp. Have a look and I am sure you will find it. joI'm a member of Bramble Berrys forum. Can you tell me what thread the recipe is on so I can take a look. I'm sure there are others who would be interested in making some awesome M&P salt bars. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWickedWick Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Candy...I found it...the long way around I'm sure but i went to the Bramble Berry website and under resources go to Soap Queen's Blog. When you're in the blog section look to the right under Bramble Berry Network and click on Teach Soap. In the middle of the page is Soap Making Forum..click on that and you're now into the forums. Under the Melt & Pour section the salt bar recipe and conversations are on the first page. If you're already a member of the forums it should be on the first page too.They sound really interesting. I'd like to try them but will have to get some FBB first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Oh thank you wickedwick! I was reading the thread and it mentioned the CP M&P base. So I looked on BB's site and found it. Just wondering if you have to use this base and can't use a regular white M&P base?Also-- is the FBB the foaming bath butter? I suppose if I buy this at BB then I would also get a slab of the white CP M&P base too.What I don't like about the recipe is that the maker mentioned that hers stuck to her mold. That doesn't sound good. Wonder if that is typical of just the mold she used. None of my soaps stick to their mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWickedWick Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 FBB is the Foaming Bath Butter. I've never tried their m&p bases but when I do experiment I'll use the white base I buy from WSP and also WSP's FBB. Don't know if it'll make a difference...I'm thinking (or hoping) probably not. I read too about it sticking in her molds. I use silicon molds and hopefully they wouldn't be hard to get out of those. Post when you decide to make these and let us know how it went. I won't be doing this until probably the Spring...sales have been pretty slow here therefore making funds a bit on the lean side!Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I know what you mean. Haven't got any spare funds to try out new things right now and don't know when I will. But its good to know there is a recipe for salt bars that works. I am not really keen on using a CP M&P base. I am gonna try it with regular white base when I get the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlycoat2 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Hi Ladies!The cp mp was used to try to prevent any sweating of mp. That way the moisture would not be drawn to the mp and also the salt in the mp, making the soap soggy. The cp mp sweats less. You will see that both Armi and I live in countries that have humidity, namely Hawaii and Australia. If you are lucky enough to not have any humidity in your area that I would think any mp would be fine. I have had no trouble with the cp type though and thoroughly enjoy using it. I no longer get little water beads on everything! LOLAlso BB no longer sell FBB, so you would need to purchase it at another supplier for example WSP. FBB is still available here in Australia so I have not had this problem of having to switch supplier yet, but I would think wsp's FBB would be just fine to use.My salt bars did not stick to my mold. The mold I used was a lunchbox from IKEA it was nothing fancy believe me and was cheap as well. I didn't spray with oil before "glopping" in the mold, the salt bar does set fast so you will need to remove it within about 20 minutes and in all of the times I have made this recipe, I have not had one stick. I believe it was the mold that was the issue for Armi.Its a great recipe. I really like it and hope when you make it you will as well.jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWickedWick Posted February 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Thanks Jo for the additional info! I use the low-sweat formula from WSP...hopefully this will help and possibly prevent any sweating. Looking forward to trying this when I can get some FBB from WSP.thanks again.Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Yes thanks for the additional info! Sounds to me like the low sweat base would work in place of the CP M&P base. Easier to find to since many suppliers carry the low sweat base but not the CP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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