kdmorgan Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Well, I've officially given up on J223 because I can't control the wet spots so I bought 6006a, 4630 and I have 10lbs of 4627 to test. I poured a madison jar for each wax and the 6006a got a great big hole down the center of the candle. I stuck a toothpick down it to see how far down it went and it is almost half way down the jar. Does anyone know what caused this?Info:Heated wax to 195Added FO at 190added 1 drop liquid dye at 185poured at 160 into heated jar (170 in oven)let it cool on the counterIs the soy causing this or am I?Thanks for the help,Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaytee_316 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I believe it has to do with the cooling temp and the shrinkage (if that is the right word) of the wax. Maybe try cooling a little slower??? I use to use Joy wax and no matter what I did ..... it always had sink holes! I just fixed them with a heat gun or did a repour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dallas_Texas_Dean Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 With the 6006 blend I think it is essential that you group your candles together and cool as slowly as possible. Try covering them with a box. ( I even tossed a throw over the box) It does make a difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdmorgan Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 Thanks for the replies. I've had wax sink in before but this is an actual hole through the middle of the candle. I've just never had this happen before. I hit the top with a heatgun to smooth it out but I'm not sure if that will be enough to take care of it. I didn't put a wick in because i'm just testing so when I poke my hole for the wick I guess I will find out.:embarasse Do either of you use this wax or did you find something you liked better?TIA,Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked1 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I think a lot of problems with the wax are also related to the container involved. I have tried every suggestion I could find. I had to save my sanity, so I have become one with my heat gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaytee_316 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Well, I ordered and thought that I had recieved 6006 ... but after testing and all that goes in with it ... I believe that the supplier might have accidently sent the wrong wax ... it's an on going saga ...lol. At any rate, I have read many good things about this wax on this board. For me though, I don't think that I'll be re-ordering it any time soon. I've spent way to much money on blends over the past several months ... going to stick to my own blend for awhile. I'd be interested to here how you liked the 6006 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillgunter Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I use the 6006 in 8 oz tins. I have nice flat tops. I have heard about sinking from other people in larger jars. Most say the heat gun works. I love the wax, just got some of the pillar wax in the parasoy and like it so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayMaire Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I use 6006 and had the problem with the holes too. A suggestion was posted by Fredron to use a styrofoam box - so I tried that and all my problems went away. Now I get nice smooth tops without the sink holes. Many thanks to Fredron! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedwanda Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 i use the 6006 and really love it, EXCEPT FOR THE SINK HOLES. but i have too have become one with my handy dandy heat gun..lol..and i am going to build me one of the styrofoam boxes GrayMaire spoke of..the 6006 has a great hot throw with all the scents i have tried with it, not to bad on wicking either..of course then there is the cure time, i usually wait atleast a week on that..hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alohajacki Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Maybe warming the jar might help It sounds like the glass is absorbibg the heat form the wax and pulling away from the side Jacki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbledoya Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I heat my wax to 180 or so, add fo and color at 170, and pour around 155-160. My tins never have sink holes, but the glass containers sometimes do. This is with heating the containers up (the glass ones).But! The other day, I didn't heat up my glass containers, and had my kitchen windows open in which there was a cool breeze coming in and pretty much blowing directly on my poor candles. Needless to say I didn't have to repour or heat gun a one of them! IGI 6006 is a weird wax, but I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alohajacki Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Well then that says to me to have a fan maybe on them when you pouring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbledoya Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Nah, I'm sure it was just a fluke--I definitely wouldn't recommend it! Just didn't want to turn on my oven that day;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putter5775 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 how long do you wait to hit it with the heat gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugtussle Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 When you bring up REALLY OLD THREADS the chances of the poster still being active are sometimes <0. Why don't you start your own thread!! Bug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScentedLuxuries Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 The heat gun is your friend! Fill the candle a little fuller than usual because when you heat gun it to fill the sink hole, the candle level will go down some. Great wax! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 The heat gun is your friend! Fill the candle a little fuller than usual because when you heat gun it to fill the sink hole, the candle level will go down some. Great wax!I am going to find out tomorrow, going to melt some and make a candle or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricofAZ Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 6006 is creamy white (not clear) and is very soft to the touch. It comes in slab form and if you grab a slab, you can break it by bending with your hands. It melts in your hand if you hold it for a minute. Its a mess to work with. If that sounds like what you have, then great. If not, then maybe you didn't get 6006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermantownCandles Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I use 6006 and I sometimes get sink holes as well, but I don't use Madison jars though. I have found that if I don't let the wax cool before pouring, I get a lot less sink holes. I just did a craft fair last week and we made about 300 candles for the fair and I only had about 5-10 end up with sink holes. Trial and Error has always worked best for me! Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I've only made 4 cases of candles with 6006, but no sink holes. In an 84 degree room, I heat the wax to 200, & pour @ 150 into preheated jars; & if I leave them to cool in the hot baking pan on my table, the tops are perfectly flat. But if I take the jars out of the hot pan & cool them just on my table top, the tops dip slightly when they're completely cool, so I put them under the broiler for a few seconds to make them flat. I'm thinking of cooling them on a heating pad next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I just poured to 8 oz containers with 6006 (my first time) heated to 190 and poured at 170, cooled at RT (75F) and saw the same concave surface that HorsescentS see. These are testers so I don't care but I may heat gun one to see what it does. No sink holes. Love the sheen on the candle, hope they burn and throw well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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