eugenia Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Inspired by the Rustic success, played with 1 t Fisher Trop, 2% vybar 343, 1 lb wax. Yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 You can go ahead and make mottled poo and we'll still love you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted August 22, 2005 Author Share Posted August 22, 2005 Gee thanks Murray. Have to tell you, you inspired me to do all this experimenting, so when you get that perfect mottle, I want in LMAO.BTW, I think your ugly one may have been uglier... Could be a contest! DanaE has one coming too.e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryinCary Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 E~~that IS ugly...but I still love you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 E~~that IS ugly...but I still love you Thanks Mary I love you too! Sure is ugly, huh?e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Gee thanks Murray. Have to tell you, you inspired me to do all this experimenting, so when you get that perfect mottle, I want in LMAO.I could tell you how to make it, but then I'd have to kill you.You know, I've been thinking lately that I like it a lot better when people shorten my handle to "Top" instead of "Murray" because Murray is a real name and not mine. I'm about the furthest thing from a Murray.And yeah my ugly was pretty fugly but I think it's a toss up between that and mottled poo with encrustations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryk Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 So you don't try it, I tried 1343, 6% Stearic, and instead of the translucent which I didnt' have, tried 2% of the C-15. The rustic surface litterally fell off the candle. Sorry, I didn't take a picture of it (in the bottom of the garbage can). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 So you don't try it, I tried 1343, 6% Stearic, and instead of the translucent which I didnt' have, tried 2% of the C-15. The rustic surface litterally fell off the candle. Sorry, I didn't take a picture of it (in the bottom of the garbage can). Tsk Tsk Henry! You need to take pix so we can all learn e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryk Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 You're right - that thing could definately have been my entrance into the fugly competition. I'm sure they'll be more - pics next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 OK. I did the heat and ice thing. No cracks but immensely improved IMO.e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherie Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 What is Fisher Trop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaybee23 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Translucent Crystals -- Translucent crystals are fisher trop waxes that come from a synthetic process. They are used to maintain the translucency of paraffin. Fisher Trop enables you to add color and fragrance to the wax without affecting the translucency. It will not add translucency, it will just help maintain it. Fisher Trop is also very effective in decreasing surface flaws and increasing strength of the candle. Usage is 1 to 3% by weight. BTW....I really like the 2nd pic. E - very nice looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherie Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Okay, I learned something new! I've never heard of them before. Thanks Kerry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharyl55 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I love it. A fugly rescue! Looks like Donita's technique worked pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Duckling to swan, just like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanaE Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Ok E - I haven't pulled mine out of the mold yet this morning so I'm not sure who's going to win on the ugly contest. I *think* your has more mottling than mine does.At least I know how to save it and use it for something!DanaE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 But I'll bet in the dark it would look good burning...hee hee hee. Those are the ones I give to my sister. She doesn't care. They go good with wine. And why the crystals? I have been using vybar 343 also, but I think that I may just use 1 T steric and NOTHING else. Donita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanaE Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Ok, here's mine. It has the exact same additives as E, but made with 4045H instead of 1343. Looking at it in the daylight...it has a good bit of mottling going on. I think I'll back off the FT by 1/2t and see if I get a full mottle.Oh, and I used 1-1/2 ounces in this ONE pillar and there's no seepage at all! That baby came out completely dry. So if I can get a great mottle, with that much FO and no seepage I'll be in heaven.DanaEOK- this picture looks orange, but the real pillar is this very pretty shade of mango - a deep orangey red. But I took the pic up close, when it was dark outside, using a lamp to get some light. I guess I should try it again, but I'm tried of uploading pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanaE Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 And here was the first try - when I was trying to do rustic with the same additives and 4045H. Seriously ugly. I backed off on the vybar and FT by 1/2 and the new pillars came out beautiful! I haven't taken a pic yet but I will. They came out looking exactly like all my other rustics, but they were able to hold 1-1/2 ounces of FO per lb.DanaE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 And why the crystals? I have been using vybar 343 also, but I think that I may just use 1 T steric and NOTHING else. DonitaWe are on a mission to get a good mottle that does not bulge when burning. Crystals were not the answer. Oh well.e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanaE Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 We are on a mission to get a good mottle that does not bulge when burning. Crystals were not the answer. Oh well.eMaybe if we try half as much FT? I'm going to try that tomorrow. Maybe I'll get a better mottle. If not, I'll definitely keep using the FT on the rustics to prevent the bulging. I'm on my 3rd or 4th burn on the ugly purple candle and it's burning great - no bulging and it's consuming itself completely. Haven't yet burned the rustic ones made with 1/2 as much FT.DanaE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garf Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 At least you take excellent clear pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatinDucky Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 That was a great save e! Looking good. I find this thread very interesting. I like the 1343 and mottles, but really hate that buldge. If mottles could be made withought it AND hold more FO, that would be fantastic. I applaud all the experimenting ya'll are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 That was a great save e! Looking good. I find this thread very interesting. I like the 1343 and mottles, but really hate that buldge. If mottles could be made withought it AND hold more FO, that would be fantastic. I applaud all the experimenting ya'll are doing.Anyone can join in. We are currently recruiting testers. Need someone to test 3 T of stearic p.p. of wax, no vybar at 1oz FO pp., 180 degree pour. Testing for mottle, sweat and bulge. e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanaE Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I'm still testing...today I'm using the 4045H, 1/2 as much Fisher Trop as I originally used, a tad of vybar 343 and 1.25 ounce FO per lb, pouring at 180. I'm doing layers so it'll be tomorrow before I unmold them most likely. Will report any sweating, and will report if the FT helped eliminate the bulge from this batch.If not....well. I'll keep trying. I don't have any bulge on the ugly purple pillar yet, so I'm still going to do rustics that way, with slightly less FT. DanaE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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