Tokoo Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I bought some 6006 and 4625 wax for tarts. I wanted to test them to see how they would do, right out of the bag I could tell I wouldn't be happy with the results, but I melted a little of each, and poured them. After sitting for 24 hours I tested them out, I was right The 6006 with less then 1% FO had a good hot and cold throw, but its so soft. feels like butter plus I hate the oily texture it has. However the 4625 was like a brick, and barely had a cold throw, with no hot throw (that could be fixed by increasing the FO maybe). So I wonder if I could mix the 2 for a better result, or mix the 4625 with something else. Not sure if that would be a waste of time, or money. I was going to get the soy tart wax, but I don't really like the feeling of soy tarts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Mix them 50/50 then test after a couple days to make sure they are completely set. I think you will like the results much better. I use 4625/4794 for one of my melt blends and I like it a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crafty1_AJ Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 One percent of fo is pretty low. I have used 4625 at 5-6% and gotten good throw. 4794 also works well at 5-6% fo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) I missed the 1% part, yes definitely increase the % for a better throw for the 4625. If you mix the 2 (6006/4625) I would start out with no less than 4% but no more than 6% and see what you think about the throw. And honestly I would wait just a tad longer than 24 hrs to test for throw. 2-3 days should be sufficient and give you a good idea of how it's going to perform on a consistent basis. Edited March 24, 2018 by Jcandleattic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crafty1_AJ Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 And I agree that 6006 has a creepy texture. LOL But it's really designed more for containers; it's not a wax that's meant to be unmolded for tarts. I wouldn't use it straight up for tarts; if you're going to use that one, definitely blend with a pillar/votive/tart wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Yes, you can mix the two with good results. The 6006 has just enough soy to be a little temperamental with some FO's, but all in all, a blend of the two can produce some nice tarts. I'd start with a 50/50 blend and adjust your percentages to get the consistency you prefer for your application. I'd probably use around 60% 4625 to 40% 6006 if I were pouring clams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokoo Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 13 hours ago, Jcandleattic said: Mix them 50/50 then test after a couple days to make sure they are completely set. I think you will like the results much better. I use 4625/4794 for one of my melt blends and I like it a lot. Alright I will start with a few different test and see, I think the results should be better as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokoo Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 13 hours ago, Crafty1_AJ said: One percent of fo is pretty low. I have used 4625 at 5-6% and gotten good throw. 4794 also works well at 5-6% fo. Actually less then 1% with straight 6006 had a potent throw, but I was just using left over FO. I will try 3-6% and see what i can get. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokoo Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/24/2018 at 11:39 AM, Jcandleattic said: Mix them 50/50 then test after a couple days to make sure they are completely set. I think you will like the results much better. I use 4625/4794 for one of my melt blends and I like it a lot. 70-75% 6006/25-30% 4625 seems to be exactly what I wanted. Not to hard, yet not oily. 50/50 was still pretty hard, at least for my taste. This is for molded tarts though. Maybe 65/35% will be needed for clamshells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tokoo said: 70-75% 6006/25-30% 4625 seems to be exactly what I wanted. Not to hard, yet not oily. 50/50 was still pretty hard, at least for my taste. This is for molded tarts though. Maybe 65/35% will be needed for clamshells. Yeah, it was just a guess on my part, as I don't work with 6006 at all. I never liked it, so got rid of the case I had after experimenting with one of the slabs out of the case. Glad you found the consistency you were looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightmyfire Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 10:38 PM, Tokoo said: I bought some 6006 and 4625 wax for tarts. I wanted to test them to see how they would do, right out of the bag I could tell I wouldn't be happy with the results, but I melted a little of each, and poured them. After sitting for 24 hours I tested them out, I was right The 6006 with less then 1% FO had a good hot and cold throw, but its so soft. feels like butter plus I hate the oily texture it has. However the 4625 was like a brick, and barely had a cold throw, with no hot throw (that could be fixed by increasing the FO maybe). So I wonder if I could mix the 2 for a better result, or mix the 4625 with something else. Not sure if that would be a waste of time, or money. I was going to get the soy tart wax, but I don't really like the feeling of soy tarts. make your life easier and try the Ky parasoy tart and votive blend from RE---you won't look back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokoo Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 6 hours ago, lightmyfire said: make your life easier and try the Ky parasoy tart and votive blend from RE---you won't look back. I have to give it a try, have been so busy lately, I haven't made anything. Thanks for the tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 My experience for clams would be to add no more than 50% 4625 to a container wax. When I upped the percentage of 4625 in clams I got a funky smell from the plastic onto the wax. Your experience might be much better than mine though. You won't know till you try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMissSunshine Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 How is this going for you @Tokoo? I am using 6006 for containers and wanted to try something a little different for clamshells. 4625 seems like it could be good as it would make it harder, so I am wondering if you are having success. Maybe I will try it out too. ☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokoo Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/2/2018 at 9:32 AM, Belinda said: My experience for clams would be to add no more than 50% 4625 to a container wax. When I upped the percentage of 4625 in clams I got a funky smell from the plastic onto the wax. Your experience might be much better than mine though. You won't know till you try! I have mostly been using 60% 6006 and 40% 4625. If I add to much 4625 I don't get as good of a HT, never noticed the funky smell. 8 hours ago, LittleMissSunshine said: How is this going for you @Tokoo? I am using 6006 for containers and wanted to try something a little different for clamshells. 4625 seems like it could be good as it would make it harder, so I am wondering if you are having success. Maybe I will try it out too. ☺ I like 60/40, but mine are not super hard, I prefer melts of the firm side. I did a 50/50, that worked good, but I had little to no HT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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