:smiley2: Well, unless there is someone kind enough to help me figure out how to do it frameless in the estore im using, than its staying with the frames lol. its easiest lol. I dont mind either way how it is, i would prefer though that it is the most search engine friendly. But whatever works lol. I dont have anything besides microsoft publisher. So I dont know how else to get it set up frameless without all the html mumbo jumbo lol. Thanks angela, i was determined to get it done! lol thanks to eugenia, she helped a whole lot too!