Merideth, Im sorry I had to look back at my notes,,,No a HTP with the 104 didnt work for me,,In the testing of 464 with rose bouguet I used a HTP 1312 and it burned great with no mushrooming or soot but it was burning faster then I liked SO I decided to try it again the same way same FO and Jar,,I used a HTP 105 and it worked great,,no hang up, no mushrooming or soot and it has a slower burn and throws GREAT!!