Hi Diana, First, welcome to the board. Ok now the bad, I don't use the shallow tins (yet), but I also know there aren't a whole lot of threads here of people that do. I do plan on getting them in (if UPS ever gets here today!), but I planned on using the shallow for wickless. I don't know how you would be able to wick a tin that shallow. It just seems to be a really big T-light. Good luck and I am sure someone will be along to help better than me.:tiptoe: Pat