Wick'n'Wax Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 I reckon they are some kind of metal stamp thats heated up and inserted after the candles made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Man Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Here is a pic Henery posted a while back http://www.candletech.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3885&d=1136318682 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 Thanks Candle Man....I remember that post now. That is what I am envisioning but designing it myself.....but along those lines....I may be off from what Kristi is doing, but I will probably kill myself trying to figure this out. I really don't need to do these but I just want to......you know all about this candle insanity as much as I do (smile).......Donita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlesprite7 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Here is a pic Henery posted a while back http://www.candletech.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3885&d=1136318682This is the picture I was trying to find...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 I see a dark background in the candles. Is this a regular pillar inserted in a mold and then an overpour? Looks like a solid background and mottle on the outside? Donita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam W Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Here is a pic Henery posted a while back http://www.candletech.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3885&d=1136318682Oops, that was my pic. Henry posted one that had a fern pattern. I think Henry's mold was different but with the end result.Found Henrys pichttp://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37523&highlight=fern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMary Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 K, this is thinking out loud and I've had no clue if this would work or anything:What about heating the candle through, just barely, so it doesn't lose shape or drip but has a sort of imprint (like when you press your thumb into wax it sticks the shape, but you get none on your thumb) , then using a firm pressure? Maybe it's a bit harder wax or something, then when heated, you just push it in?The other thought I had, is that they have some sort of plate, and take a candle and roll it horizontally over a plate to impress it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWickChick Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Can the stamp be affixed to the side of the mold, then the candle poured and when set, the rubber stamp removed to leave the deep imprint?I really have no idea, but it seems to me that stamping them in would cause a billowing out of wax and you wouldnt have that smooth surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGirl Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Oh..........could I possibly make it smaller!!! LOL! Anyway i just stamped this crummy test everlasting candle I make the other day. I just heated the rubber stamp with my hair dryer and stamped the candle. As I said before in this thread..........they do make a deep etch rubber stamp which would be nicer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 I just bought some more molds from her and this is what she told me:regarding no one can figure it out...thats why ive had the market for this product and have sold millions of dollars worth of candles!! now a person could just make silicone molds. the only problem is the huge captial investment! kristi I love this woman. She is truly and artist and inventor. Donita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMary Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Is it really that expensive to have a few custom silicone molds? I can't imagine a huge capital on just a few of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Man Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Is it really that expensive to have a few custom silicone molds? I can't imagine a huge capital on just a few of them...A 3"X6" pillar mold averages around $20.00 and up. Now for production you would need dozens, in order to make the quanity needed. So yes it would be expensive. Plus she has different shapes & sizes so that would put the molds needed in the thousands of dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Where is there a silicone mold for a 3x6 for around $20? 3x3 might be a bit more than $20. Hell of a deal if one exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 They use to live in our neighborhood. Their pottery accessories are a major driving force of their business.From what I can see in the pictures, I'll go ahead and speculate at to how one might do those candles. The photos, btw, are more like computer renditions, so I don't know how much the candles actually resemble the images depicted on the site.The variety of candle shapes suggests tin molds. Aluminum isn't available in the variety of shapes. Silicone or rubber molds are possible. But if it were silicone or rubber, we'd probably see embossed candles as well as debossed candles since you can do both with silicone or rubber molds. So, let's assume tin molds.One could apply a thin vinyl magnetic sheeting to the back of a rubber stamp, and stick it to the inside of a tin mold. Since thin vinyl magnets are not that strong, the candle should slide out of the mold fairly easily. And then the stamp could be peeled from the unmolded candle with very little effort, leaving the debossed image.Cheers,Alan :smiley2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMary Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Alan... you're a genius! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Silicon (and urethane) molds are wonderful things! All you need is a good master from which to make the mold! I do other artwork that requires the use of molds and have made wonderful impressions using actual leaves for impressions or tracing lettering (printed on a tranparency) with silicon rubber or liquid leading. When the casting is demolded, the raised lettering becomes recessed into the casting. The crispness of the lines in the candles (from what I could see) made me think of a die at first, but usually when one uses a die, there is always a trace line surrounding it somewhere because of pressing the cold or hot die into the surface (especially a curved surface); so, in the absence of obvious casting lines, my money is on a silicon glove mold that was made from a carefully hand-crafted original. Once you have the master made, you can make many molds from it. Silicon molds last a long time, especially when one treats them well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 Alan......just when I had another idea you come up with this. Genius....truly genius. Cheers, Donita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 I didn't read through ALL of the pages of posts to your question so don't know if this link was posted or not. I've never tried this but it looks interesting and I plan to play around with it someday.http://www.stampin.com/tips/candles.htmMaggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Too cool, Maggie! Thanks for sharing that technique! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 That looks like fun too Maggie. Thanks, Donita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 Alan.....I left all of my "stuff" in Virginia so trying to find supplies in a resort town is going to be the challenge. I found a couple of magnets here and there but not what I need. I had everything I needed for just about any craft project (except welding and stained glass.....didn't get to those yet)......I am so frustrated, but made a call to the UPS Store and they have some magnets. I know this is going to work. Somehow. I'm on a mission now. Donita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanFool Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Places like Office Max and Office Depot have refrigerator magnets for sticking your business card to. They're reasonably priced for the amount you get, and you can attach any kind of paper to them to get rid of the stickiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilona Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 I dunno, the woman sounds a bit shady to me...capitalizing MILLIONS with embossed candles. She'd need to be running a factory. Most times secrets come down to something incredibly simple. I doubt she's a rocket scientist with the formula for uranium enrichment...but she guards her "secret" as if she were!My sister dabbles in ancient pagan stuff. She makes candles that look just like the ones you posted but with pagan symbolic stamps (celtic swirls and very cool designs). I will try to get a pic of one when I return to the USA, but she told me they are pretty common in her circles. I knew right away when I saw your post with the star as it reminded me of a candle my sister has in her bedroom (that she made). They are called Candle Seals and have been used through history, so not a new thing. My sister said you can get custom designs as one of her friends got one for his wedding ritual. Cool stuff. Check out this site about them: http://www.capricornslair.com/canstamcanem.html :tiptoe: Soooo possibly these are her secret:Good luck! Hope I've helped.IlonaPS if she's making millions, a few silicome molds wouldn't break her. And why not just start off with one or two...etc. Sound like she is trying to talk you out of figuring it out...Something is stinky poo poo about this secret business :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeAndMyPuppyDog Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Good Gosh! This thread is still going?????? Look at Bullfrog Light. These are made the same way. It is no secret.Geesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Well, dang. That looks like a pretty simple solution to the problem... All one would have to do is cast their own design and emboss away! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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