Gdawg Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 made a candle with 4627 comfort blend and the scent was baby powder. Hubby Travels so he took one with him. Well he got home last night and pulled it out of the suitcase and it seems all the FO went to the bottom and gelled up and then aslo leaked out the top(it was laying on its side). What would cause this? Scared that when we do ship candles that the FO will sink and gel up durning shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Well you'd think there must be too much FO. How much is in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnhorsemom Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 After seeing your other post that says you use 10% fo (I'm assuming you mean 10% fo load) you are more than likely using too much fo. Try backing off some and it may solve both your problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 I will try less but I was thinking it was the cold since it sat in the car for a few hours while he was in his meeting and the temps are below 0. My ones here are fine and not gelled up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3lilrugrats Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 it sounds like too much fo for the wax to hold. I don't use the same wax but I use 9% fo load and my candles have never leaked in the cold. I agree..maybe try less fo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacktortoise Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I think it is too much FO as well. I used to store my candles outside in the garage in winter (in WI) and none ever leaked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGirl Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I always use 8oz per 4 lbs. of wax. Never have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsyjen Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Also, what temperature do you add your FO? Could be it's not hot enough to bind with the wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 With some FOs you might be able to get 12% in there. With others 8% might be too much. You can't treat them all alike because compatibility with the wax varies a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGirl Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Never had a problem with over 350 Fo's. Exclusively use 4627 and the load stated above. I would more agree with the binding of the fo and the wax either temp or length of mixing time. Not one time has the fo separted from the wax. Any possibility of additives or anything getting into the wax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Man Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Another reason of seperation is Baby Powder has Vanilla in it. Vanilla is a heavy scent and some of them are hard to mix into wax and you need to use less FO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 oh thanks for all the great replies. Will try it with less FO (have to get hubby to agree to that one lol) I put the FO in at 175 stir well then pour into warm jar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGirl Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Hmmmm.........you said the ones not exposed to the severe cold were ok though......I'd set another one outside and see if the same thing happens. If so wouldn't it make sense with the high fragrance load of the 4627, that the wax contracted and forced the oil out? Just sounds logical. I have seen the wax shrink (contract) alot with this cold. We even had 4 discolor badly last week in shipping and they were fine when they went out the door with ups. The candles, all of the pinks and reds, all were perfect and then when they got to the customer, ugly! So, yes the cold can do weird things to the candles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grama Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 It's also possible that if the fo was not incorporated into the wax good then on the last pour more of the fo went into that one candle isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverm00n Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I don't use this wax but am having the same problem with one FO... so far. I used between 8-9% of FO pp and am able to use 10. Candle was lit a few days after curing...fine. A few weeks later, after letting it to cure longer, I noticed that it had drops of liquid in it. Looked like a little bit of FO to me. But I though maybe I did that somehow. Wiped it off, let it sit. Nothing, a week or so later... again. Now I lit it and it's burning fine, and throw is fine. That's the only FO that's done that to me (stormwatch), so I think you might need to cut down on that particular FO's load too. Try leaving another one outside like suggested, and make another one with a dif. FO to compare. I don't doubt that the cold does funky things though, especially to soy. And I agree with Top, you can't treat all FO's the same, that's especially apparent in wicking and H/T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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