Bill Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Ok, after 205 posts I have to start a new thread. Hopefully this will put some of the debate to rest. This is information I copied directly from the National Candle Association website. This information can be found under candle wax FACTS, did you read that, F A C T S. This is what I will be using to determine what claims I can or can not make about my candles. Paraffin is the most commonly used candle wax today. Beeswax, soy wax, palm wax, gels, and synthesized waxes are also used in candle-making for the U.S. market, as are blends of waxes. Waxes burn with a yellow flame due to the presence of carbon. No specific type of wax or wax blend is considered "best" for candlemaking. All candle waxes - when provided in high-quality format - have been shown to burn cleanly and safely. No candle wax has ever been shown to be toxic or harmful to human health. There is no such thing as a soot-free wax. All organic compounds when burned will emit some carbon (soot) due to incomplete combustion. Sooting is primarily a factor of wick length and disturbance of the flame's steady teardrop shape. Reputable candle manufacturers use only high-quality waxes in their formulations. Now, can we all just get along, lol. I still need to figure out what type of wick to use in my soy wax, so far no luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 Here's the link in case anyone wants to check out more.http://www.candles.org/elements_wax.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoOneSpecial Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 That is a good way to make sure they have members in the form of all types of candle makers. :undecided If they do say that one is better than the other they would probably lose all the members they have from the ones that aren't selling the best one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 There's a lot more under Q&A on that site, but Bill I don't think it will ever end the debate lol! Shame, but it won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tess Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Nope it will not end the debate, everyone will be partial to their own wax of course. But hopefully it will help quench those honest sellers who were taught otherwise, to just promote the honest qualities of their creation. Ex. Smells great, burns great, hand-poured, low soot (if applies). That is how I sell. Even when I do sell Soy (and I plan to), I am going to use the same technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Di_in_AZ Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Nice link Bill Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudsnwicks Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Ok, after 205 posts I have to start a new thread. Hopefully this will put some of the debate to rest. Hmmm, not sure about that. It's up to 215 on the other thread already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carriegsxr6 Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Nope it will not end the debate, everyone will be partial to their own wax of course. But hopefully it will help quench those honest sellers who were taught otherwise, to just promote the honest qualities of their creation. Ex. Smells great, burns great, hand-poured, low soot (if applies). That is how I sell. Even when I do sell Soy (and I plan to), I am going to use the same technique.I agree, I like to say things like:Highly scented, properly wicked, even burning, vibrantly colored handcrafted candles. major selling point should be on the craftsmanship of your candle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenHillsCandle Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 The debate will never end as people will always have an opinion and be strong in their convictions. The problem as I see it is people making false claims about their products or only pointing out the negatives about the other type of candles. You know kinda like politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tess Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 The debate will never end as people will always have an opinion and be strong in their convictions. The problem as I see it is people making false claims about their products or only pointing out the negatives about the other type of candles. You know kinda like politicians.YAY!! Someone else gets it!!! :highfive: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest simplyput Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Hmmm, now why would they not have "technical papers" available? It does make you wonder.This is what it said under "Publications & Links":Technical PapersWe are in the process of updating our inventory of publications. A completely revised list of publications will soon be available. We are sorry for any inconvenience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest simplyput Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 The National Candle Association is just an association full of manufacturers and the suppliers. How would this end the debate? I don't see any statistics or any reputable reports to analyze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 You probably won't either, because it is hefty to join and some of those things may only be available to its members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowded House Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Soy makes you gay!World Nut Daily strikes on the side of paraffin with this startling discovery.Man, oh, man. Who knew? :laugh2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Soy makes you gay!World Nut Daily strikes on the side of paraffin with this startling discovery.Man, oh, man. Who knew? :laugh2:Guess I won't be giving soy milk to my hubby anytime soon. lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tess Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Good Grief! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Soy makes you gay!World Nut Daily strikes on the side of paraffin with this startling discovery.Man, oh, man. Who knew? :laugh2:WHAT WILL THEY COME UP WITH NEXT.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcroome2005 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Guess I won't be giving soy milk to my hubby anytime soon. lmaoomfg too funny. I should put that on my website. " Soy makes you gay" lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOmg. Ya know, I never used soy nor do I want to. I have bought soy candles in the past and not impressed. I am paraffin all the way and proud of it! If people want to truly believe that paraffin is what caused their gas log fireplaces to get clogged then so be it. More power to them. I personally wont touch soy with a 10 foot poll. I have to give PROPS to those who have mastered the soy wax because I have heard it's a P.I.T.A.. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceCarvesWax Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Soy makes you gay!World Nut Daily strikes on the side of paraffin with this startling discovery.Man, oh, man. Who knew? :laugh2:Heres a quote from that site:"Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality." If you put this information out there you wont have to worry about guys even touching soy for any reason! No soy in massage formulas, candles, food, soy lotion candles, lip balm......... you name it. Well it may be too late for some of the guys, but I have been spared so far. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Heres a quote from that site:"Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality." If you put this information out there you wont have to worry about guys even touching soy for any reason! No soy in massage formulas, candles, food, soy lotion candles, lip balm......... you name it. Well it may be too late for some of the guys, but I have been spared so far. Bruce*Sneaks up on Bruce with soy milk*:tiptoe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcroome2005 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Heres a quote from that site:"Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality." If you put this information out there you wont have to worry about guys even touching soy for any reason! No soy in massage formulas, candles, food, soy lotion candles, lip balm......... you name it. Well it may be too late for some of the guys, but I have been spared so far. BruceLMFAOOOOOOO Glad you were spared Bruce. hehehehee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 Ok, I see how the NCA page was a bit biased, my fault! But for some reason I keep crying everytime a Hallmark ad comes on tv, and now I just want to cuddle with someone! Damn this soy, I knew it had side effects!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspencreek Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Ok, I see how the NCA page was a bit biased, my fault! But for some reason I keep crying everytime a Hallmark ad comes on tv, and now I just want to cuddle with someone! Damn this soy, I knew it had side effects!!!HA HA HA!!!! I think I just woke my husband up I was laughing so hard. Thanks for the a laugh!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcroome2005 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Ok, I see how the NCA page was a bit biased, my fault! But for some reason I keep crying everytime a Hallmark ad comes on tv, and now I just want to cuddle with someone! Damn this soy, I knew it had side effects!!!Oh Lord, lol Bill is gonna be a bit of fresh air to this board. Thanks for making me laugh. lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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