Catarina Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hi everyone - new to the board, and new to trying to get a black votive candle! I'm using Astor V and Peaks black liquid dye, and the closest thing I get to black is gunmetal gray! I put 50 drops of black dye into 3 lbs of wax. Don't know if that's too much color - I'll have to see if they burn okay. Any suggestions? I also want a black container candle and I use J223. Before I start messin' with that I'd thought I'd post and ask for help!!! Thanks, and I enjoy the board! You are all terrific!Catarina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I'd say 50 drops is too many and don't believe either of those waxes will give you the color you're looking for because of their properties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 This is what I do....but it won't work for everyone. I make black cat candles and they weren't getting black, but purple grey.......soooooooo I started using powder dye and steric. Now I get very black wax....however, you would need to experiment because I use a lot of powder because I know that people aren't going to burn the candles (unless in case of a power outage and they don't have anything else LOL) . All of the powder I am sure will plug up a wick, but with careful experimenting, you should get what you want and I am sure that there are people on this board that have other ways.....like Ange. Good luck, Donita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 You'll have an easier time switching to more translucent wax for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creativegems Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 http://www.barnloftcandles.com/soy_dyes.htmlTry here. I haven't used it but I would if I needed more dyes. I'm sure she will answer any questions you may have.Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 http://www.barnloftcandles.com/soy_dyes.htmlTry here. I haven't used it but I would if I needed more dyes. I'm sure she will answer any questions you may have.JanetThe only difference between these dyes and the ones she's already using is that they're dissolved in a different base. The dye itself is the same, so I don't think buying a different product is going to address the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlc26 Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I agree with Top and ScentedIt is the wax not the dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tara Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I just made some black candles tonight with J50 which is similar to J223. I have read in the past that 7 drops per oz is okay so that is what I went with and always do to get a deep black of course you will have to test them because you will probably need to wick up using that much dye which is what I do Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catarina Posted September 13, 2005 Author Share Posted September 13, 2005 Thanks, everyone... I'll keep experimenting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolas Lights Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I've only made 3 black candles and it didn't look black enough at first, I put in 5 drops of black liquid dye so I experimented and put in a smidge of brown and a smide of red and got a nice true black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeannie Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I agree with Janet! I saw pictures of these dyes color soy "Pitch Black." That's pretty amazing considering you don't have to wick up if you follow the formula. Next on my list of things to try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisR Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 http://www.barnloftcandles.com/soy_dyes.htmlTry here. I haven't used it but I would if I needed more dyes. I'm sure she will answer any questions you may have.JanetI have used this black and you do get a BLACK that is true and doesn't clog your wick. You need to measure and follow the directions closely, but the results will amaze you. In my soy/paraffin wax I have no problems with dark colors now!!! Daphne is great help with any questions also!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 i haven't tried theirsyet, but i made black and orange pillars last fall with the black powdered dye at BC...didn't have to wick up either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryk Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 If it matters, using 1343 and the flake dye type called "pitch black" you'll get a pure black BLACK. The melt pool looks like oil sludge. I didn't have to wick up, but was getting some small deposits on the wick (like you would get when burning BW), which with normal trimming after each burn didn't hinder the flame - if fact, it burned really well actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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