QueenB016 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Which wicks work best in this wax? Also igi6006? So far HTp or zinc for me but still not getting a good hot throw on some scents! I’ve tried eco rrd lx and cd and no hot throw from those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paintguru Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 May just be your FO choices, not necessarily the wicks. I personally simply found wicks that worked best for my wax and then identified which FOs played nicely with the combo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErronB Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Sounds to me like you're not adding the FO at proper temps. To rule this out, add the FO at 190 and give the candles a few days to cure. Those 2 waxes rarely have issues throwing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenB016 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 190 isn’t too high?? I add between 185-175 and try to pour at 165-160! I’ve gotten good hot throw in 2 scents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErronB Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 minute ago, QueenB016 said: 190 isn’t too high?? I add between 185-175 and try to pour at 165-160! I’ve gotten good hot throw in 2 scents! I'd be writing for hours if I explained everything I have discovered by testing all that. But I'll tell you right now with the recent batches of IGI paraffin type waxes if you don't add it hot you're going to have problems unless the FO just happens to be one which will throw in anything at any temp. I don't know exactly what they've been doing to the waxes lately but they are more stubborn. It's not too hot, give it a try, and if you don't get a good throw after that then I'd look into other things like how long you're stirring in the FO, and the wicks you're using. Wicking is a whole nother story, but you should rule any problems out of your process first before getting to that. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenB016 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 Ok thanks! And I cure any wax I use at least 7 days or longer just to be sure! I’ll try 190! I’m testing zinc and premiere wicks this week! So far HTp is the only wick that gave me good hot throw in any wax! But now idk where to get them from! I hear they are switching them up! But thanks for the advice!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 For 4630, zinc and LX. For 6006, Eco, LX, CD, zinc The Candle Science wick guide is pretty accurate for both of those waxes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karinz40 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 13 hours ago, bfroberts said: For 4630, zinc and LX. For 6006, Eco, LX, CD, zinc The Candle Science wick guide is pretty accurate for both of those waxes. I really like the LX. The Zinc mushrooms a little to much for me. But both have a steady burn and nice HT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, karinz40 said: I really like the LX. The Zinc mushrooms a little to much for me. But both have a steady burn and nice HT I have found that the zincs don't mushroom if they are a perfect fit, most of the time they aren't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Container plays a big part too. I use 16oz square masons mostly. A taller container with shoulders holds in a good bit of heat as it burns down allowing you to use a smaller wick than you would with a tumbler type container of the same diameter. This can result in a smaller, more controlled flame, slower burn, less mushrooming. There are a lot of factors at play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 On 11/27/2020 at 7:58 PM, ErronB said: I'd be writing for hours if I explained everything I have discovered by testing all that. But I'll tell you right now with the recent batches of IGI paraffin type waxes if you don't add it hot you're going to have problems unless the FO just happens to be one which will throw in anything at any temp. I don't know exactly what they've been doing to the waxes lately but they are more stubborn. It's not too hot, give it a try, and if you don't get a good throw after that then I'd look into other things like how long you're stirring in the FO, and the wicks you're using. Wicking is a whole nother story, but you should rule any problems out of your process first before getting to that. I made is melts with 4627 that are seriously under-performing, could it be that my wax wasn't hot enough? I've been thinking about remelting and adding some more FO to bring it to 10%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karinz40 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/27/2020 at 8:51 PM, bfroberts said: For 4630, zinc and LX. For 6006, Eco, LX, CD, zinc The Candle Science wick guide is pretty accurate for both of those waxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karinz40 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/27/2020 at 8:51 PM, bfroberts said: For 4630, zinc and LX. For 6006, Eco, LX, CD, zinc The Candle Science wick guide is pretty accurate for both of those waxes. So you thinkl LX 18 for my 3 inch tins would be ok? not LX 20 to big I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightLight Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 You have to try each fragrance. Lx 18 a start, some fragrances may require 16 or 20. Test. It’s the halfway to bottom of the tin that is key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karinz40 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, NightLight said: You have to try each fragrance. Lx 18 a start, some fragrances may require 16 or 20. Test. It’s the halfway to bottom of the tin that is key. So if it's good to half way down it's the one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErronB Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 1:36 PM, Forrest said: I made is melts with 4627 that are seriously under-performing, could it be that my wax wasn't hot enough? I've been thinking about remelting and adding some more FO to bring it to 10%. It's definitely a possibility, I'd give it a shot. If that doesn't work then there has to be something off with the wax because 4627 is one of the biggest throwing waxes I ever used, only 2nd to CBL-129 in my opinion, that stuff literally blows my house to pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErronB Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, karinz40 said: So if it's good to half way down it's the one? They mean as in from the middle to the bottom, burning the bottom of the candles is where the gremlins come out and try to wreck everything, if you can get a good burn at the bottom without it being ridiculously hot then that's the winner IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightLight Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Test at half way mark and down, then make a full one with the wick that burns well in bottom half and see how it goes. When you go down into containers candles will burn faster and hotter than from the top beginning of candle. Candle tins get hot! so you might have some hang up in beginning of candle but by half way through you should be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karinz40 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Now i understand. thank you both so much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 hours ago, ErronB said: It's definitely a possibility, I'd give it a shot. If that doesn't work then there has to be something off with the wax because 4627 is one of the biggest throwing waxes I ever used, only 2nd to CBL-129 in my opinion, that stuff literally blows my house to pieces. I know, and I made some tins with the same FO but a previous batch of 4627 and they had great HT. I'll try remelting and adding some FO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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