prs7979 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I got a small amount of glass glow to experiment with and based on my experience with NG Palm I used CSN's to start with. I poured hot and flipped when the top set enough. Cured them for a week. But a couple of them drifted all the way to the side during the first burn. Not all of them though Is this indicative of holes (i.e. I didn't flip soon enough) or some other issue that I'm not thinking of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 what do you mean by drifting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, prs7979 said: I got a small amount of glass glow to experiment with and based on my experience with NG Palm I used CSN's to start with. I poured hot and flipped when the top set enough. Cured them for a week. But a couple of them drifted all the way to the side during the first burn. Not all of them though Is this indicative of holes (i.e. I didn't flip soon enough) or some other issue that I'm not thinking of. Wick drifting means the whole wick assembly came loose from the jar as in the tab holding the wick came loose. This can only happen when there is not much of a candle left to burn and the remaining wax is completely pooled and the tab was not anchored to the jar properly. If you made a candle in a jar and filled it with wax and just burned it the wick doesn't drift. Do you mean the wick is leaning to one side? Do you have a pic of the candle with the wick in question? Edited October 5, 2020 by Candybee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prs7979 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 Yeah, I used the wrong term---I was hunting a term that expressed that it was way more than just leaning. I'm used to leaning, but this thing ended up on the other side entirely. It didn't get like this immediately but it was basically on the other side of the jar after like two hours. I burnt it a little more and it just kept going to the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) From what I can see my guess is your wick tab was either not centered or not anchored properly which led to the wick moving. What are you using to anchor your wick? and how do you ensure it is centered? and finally, are you making sure your wick is pulled straight and held at center as the wax is cooling after you poured? are you using any wick centering tools or center bars to hold the wick in place as it cools? Edited October 6, 2020 by Candybee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prs7979 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) I use wick stickers. I'm not 100% sure but I think when I checked the wick sticker was still centered in place. I don't remember which one I used but I mostly use something like this https://www.amazon.com/EricX-Light-Candle-Centering-Device/dp/B01MAZKE0B or this https://vacandlesupply.com/Wick-Holder-Centering-Tool-for-25-Standard-Jar-12-pcs_p_627.html I also pull it tight after getting it set (attempting not to unseat the wick). If I remember correctly I didn't trim before flipping so that is also another potential culprit? Edited October 6, 2020 by prs7979 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Did you wash the jar prior to setting the wick? Those stickers can fail to adhere well if the jar isn't squeaky clean....and then the heat can cause drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 One last culprit could also be the wick came loose from the tab. Happened to me several times. Once I had a whole bag of wicks that weren't crimped tight on the wicks and the wicks were easily pulled out. I didn't notice till after I poured the wax and saw the wick came off the tab and was floating free. Total pain in the patootie. Had to buy another bag and handcrimp each wick to make sure they were all tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldieMN Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 On a side note, should people flip jars when using soy? Or is this something just done with palm. GoldieMN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 47 minutes ago, GoldieMN said: On a side note, should people flip jars when using soy? Or is this something just done with palm. GoldieMN Palm wax forms a sturdy crust on the top fairly quickly as it cools. This keeps the molten liquid wax inside trapped When flipped. Palm wax is either liquid or solid, there is no “slush” like with soy, so the air bubbles are free-floating inside the cooling wax. soy wax does not form a stable crust and stays like slush/sludge for a long while as it cools, so air bubbles do not not move freely. sludge would spill out all over the table if flipped. For soy, it is easier to prevent air pockets with pouring temps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prs7979 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 I did some digging after work last night and it looks like the wick tab came loose from the sticker. Not completely off but like tilted over if that makes sense. It still looked straight when I started burning but I guess as the wax heated up it started turning towards the side. I appreciate everyone's help in diagnosing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldieMN Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, TallTayl said: Palm wax forms a sturdy crust on the top fairly quickly as it cools. This keeps the molten liquid wax inside trapped When flipped. Palm wax is either liquid or solid, there is no “slush” like with soy, so the air bubbles are free-floating inside the cooling wax. soy wax does not form a stable crust and stays like slush/sludge for a long while as it cools, so air bubbles do not not move freely. sludge would spill out all over the table if flipped. For soy, it is easier to prevent air pockets with pouring temps. Whew! Thought I had missed a step. lol Thanks, Sweetie! GoldieMN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 48 minutes ago, GoldieMN said: Whew! Thought I had missed a step. lol Thanks, Sweetie! GoldieMN No ma’am you did not miss a step. what you did was prevent a giant mess ha ha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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