seattle70 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 This is probably a topic covered numerous times but I could not help notice, yet again, that manufacturers of FO's and Wax sometimes say to dump the FO in at low temps (140). Since my scent throw is giving me grief, I wondered if there was some truth to that. I just bought some JS Christmas Pine, Home and Hearth, and Apple Pie and I got zero throw in Soy or Vegie/Para mix.Any comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Bug Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I've given up adding at a low (140) temp. I think the throw is much better when added at 175. Just personal opinion, but I have tried both ways in various soys. Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 This is probably a topic covered numerous times but I could not help notice, yet again, that manufacturers of FO's and Wax sometimes say to dump the FO in at low temps (140). Since my scent throw is giving me grief, I wondered if there was some truth to that. I just bought some JS Christmas Pine, Home and Hearth, and Apple Pie and I got zero throw in Soy or Vegie/Para mix.Any comments?No way can that be caused by putting it in at too high a temp. People are paranoid about burning off scent and whatever but it just doesn't happen that easily. Not that you're guaranteed better scent throw if you put it in at a higher temp. It's insurance for FOs don't bind as easily unless it's hot.You know that some FOs just don't throw well in soy. Do you have that prob with stuff you get from The Scented Bean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DENISE72598 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I use a 50/50 blend and add FO at 185 and then pour at 165 to reduce shrinkage. I mostly use JS for my FO's. Although I have read that when you use soy exclusively that there are some problems with the throw in certain FO's.... HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaVA Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I use paraffin and never add FO below 175. It binds better at higher temps and I have never had a problem "burning off" the FO. Some FOs just don't throw well, so that's why we have to test them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryGirl Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Are U letting other people test ur candles..U may just have candle nose!!!!Just a thought!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACKWOODS Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I also add my FO at 175... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peggy Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I read this article recently and found it most interesting. Might help with your dilemma, also seems to agree with what others are saying.http://candleandsoap.about.com/od/tipsandtechniques/qt/qtfotemp.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelestialSoyCandles Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I always add mine hot - I use pure soy... and the comment about the candle nose - thats the truth! I always pour my candles in twos and give one out to my sister - who has a ranch style house she her house her harder to scent.. Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelestialSoyCandles Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Hey - I just noticed I am now called a "wax drip" - should I be offended? lol Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeB Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I add FO at 175-180, depends how impatient I am. I don't use soy but did try 2 different brands and didn't have a problem. Try having someone else smell the candle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattle70 Posted January 11, 2006 Author Share Posted January 11, 2006 You know that some FOs just don't throw well in soy. Do you have that prob with stuff you get from The Scented Bean?The Scented Bean and some of Candle Cocoon's are the only no brainers that throw no matter how bad I muck it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattle70 Posted January 11, 2006 Author Share Posted January 11, 2006 Are U letting other people test ur candles..U may just have candle nose!!!!Just a thought!!!I thought of that too but this is candles that I test 48 hrs to a week later. Hmmmmm, maybe I just suck at this:undecided Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelleRie Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I use soy wax and add FO around 175, and the throw with JS Hearth and Home and Apple Pie are fantastic. I think you really should add FO at a higher temp:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 The Scented Bean and some of Candle Cocoon's are the only no brainers that throw no matter how bad I muck it up.There you go.You may not realize how true it is even though you've heard it, but a lot of FOs just don't work well in soy. You can test a lot of duds.What's special about The Scented Bean is that they resell the FOs they buy for their candle business. They've already tested them and they work. I think Lyschel is a big soy user too.It's not you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlesprite7 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Hey - I just noticed I am now called a "wax drip" - should I be offended? lol HeatherAbsolutely not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dallas_Texas_Dean Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I remember having issues getting the 1945 (4630 we call it now I think) to throw adding the FO at 165-170. I boosted the temp to 180-185 for adding the FO and it did get much better. Have been doing that with all the waxes now. Not sure if it is true with all wax, but it seems to have helped me with the ones I have used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 175-180 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsmejeffd Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I usually add FO @ 185 to 190 in Comfort Blend and pour @ 175 to 180. With the exception of just a couple of scents, the throw is out of this world. I also get most of my FO from JS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattle70 Posted January 11, 2006 Author Share Posted January 11, 2006 It's not you.Thanks. It's nice to know that I am not be a complete candle making idiot. But man do I have a lot of FO's that I guess I'll have to sell or stare at wistfully....It also sounds like I need to at my FO's at at least 185. Thanks everybody!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Thanks. It's nice to know that I am not be a complete candle making idiot. But man do I have a lot of FO's that I guess I'll have to sell or stare at wistfully....Incentive to try paraffin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlebean Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 from one wax drip to another, you're in good company!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I just ordered 10 sample FO's from Scented Bean. The owner was very nice and said that her daughter has a great nose and she chooses the scents for their soy candle business. I can hardly wait to try them. Donita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 It also sounds like I need to at my FO's at at least 185.Many people say it increases bubbles and other bad things to heat up soy wax too much. I haven't totally verified that's true but have adopted it anyway, so I draw the line at 180. I suppose that should be high enough to get things properly mixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Kitty Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Incentive to try paraffin. I agree with that whole-heartedly. Soy, palm wax, any of the specialty waxes to me seems a pain, I've heard they're a pain to wick, not to mention scent throw so I've leered from them quite a bit. I enjoy working with paraffin.I'm actually conducting a rather unusual experiment with wax that I hope to post the results of soon. I'm curious to see how many people either smack me with pillows or sledgehammers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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