Danni5173 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Doesn't the mottling wax have to be poured hot to mottle? I think it's going to be a lot of fun playing with pillars again.That's what they say but I get better mottle when I do rustics- lol. It's funny how we all can have varying results with the same wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldGlory Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Not here- I just stick with 1343. I'm with Flicker on the throw. 1343 is better. I use 6% and the candles come out great every time with whatever fragrance, I have never tried 3% FO because I was afraid it wouldn't throw very well. When I tried the 1274 for more consistent mottling, the throw was not as good but the mottling was better. I think you'll be ok blending the two but you don't really need to unless you are trying to finish up the 1274. Just curious why do you want to blend them? Your 3 x 6.5 mold- I think holds somewhere between 22 and 27 ounces of wax- I'm not sure on the exact number since I use this mold but I only use a pound of wax at a time. The size of this mold is wonderful though. I love it. If your curious, for me, with most scents, I use a 1/0 square braid. I can get away with a 2/0 square braid with some scents but not all that many.I would try a blend to get a better throw plus some mottling. Heck, I will try anything once or twice.Thanks for the wicking information and the suggestion on 1343. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The 3x3.5 rounds for me hold about 12.5 oz of treated wax (FO plus stearic for me) ... The 3x6.5 if memory serves me right varied between 22 and 24 oz ... this is in solid form. The difference was in how much shrinkage I had to deal with. I'd try the two together. As for FO, I go 1 oz pp. As long as I have enough stearic in there I don't get weepage. I don't tend to get mottle either, but I generally am not trying for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldGlory Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Here's my attempt at pillars yesterday. I will get better with time and practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldGlory Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I am unable to edit the previous post.The fragrances, left to right, are Hawaiian Sandalwood from RE with a bit of Pinion Pine mixed in (it's very earthy), Autumn Leaves from BCN, and Black Currant Tea from RE (I think it's RE but might be Candle Science).I did not have stearic acid and found that 6% FO was way too much - really seeped out of the wax. The frozen washcloth idea was BRILLIANT!Thanks for all your help. I think I'm on my way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 They look great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Beautiful colors, congrats OG !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldGlory Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Thanks! I am enjoying this journey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldGlory Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 More pillars - I am having WAY too much fun.first one is 1274, frozen mold, no treatment on the bottom, cranberry spicesecond one is 1343, frozen mold, frozen rag on the bottom, gingerbreadthird is 1274, room temp mold, frozen rag on only the middle layer, blackberry sagefourth is 1343, frozen mold, frozen rag on other pours, Muir Woods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danni5173 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 More pillars - I am having WAY too much fun.first one is 1274, frozen mold, no treatment on the bottom, cranberry spicesecond one is 1343, frozen mold, frozen rag on the bottom, gingerbreadthird is 1274, room temp mold, frozen rag on only the middle layer, blackberry sagefourth is 1343, frozen mold, frozen rag on other pours, Muir WoodsThose are beautiful! Aren't they addicting?Weird that you had FO seep- never has happened to me. So weird how different people have different results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 More pillars - I am having WAY too much fun.first one is 1274, frozen mold, no treatment on the bottom, cranberry spicesecond one is 1343, frozen mold, frozen rag on the bottom, gingerbreadthird is 1274, room temp mold, frozen rag on only the middle layer, blackberry sagefourth is 1343, frozen mold, frozen rag on other pours, Muir WoodsAwesomesauce! Really Purdy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldGlory Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Thanks. I have a lot to learn still.They are terribly addicting because each one is a surprise. I suppose the ones I pour into room temp molds will be more predictable.And, I forgot how much fun they are to burn, how long they last, and how much I can enjoy less fragrance.Overall, a very satisfying experience thanks to everyone's help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puma52 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 More pillars - I am having WAY too much fun.first one is 1274, frozen mold, no treatment on the bottom, cranberry spicesecond one is 1343, frozen mold, frozen rag on the bottom, gingerbreadthird is 1274, room temp mold, frozen rag on only the middle layer, blackberry sagefourth is 1343, frozen mold, frozen rag on other pours, Muir WoodsOh GIRL!!!!! Those ARE BEAUTIMOUS!!!! Awesome job there !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Here's my attempt at pillars yesterday. I will get better with time and practice.Wow! Those are wonderful! My favorite is the brown earthy one.....you go girl! Trappeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 More pillars - I am having WAY too much fun.first one is 1274, frozen mold, no treatment on the bottom, cranberry spicesecond one is 1343, frozen mold, frozen rag on the bottom, gingerbreadthird is 1274, room temp mold, frozen rag on only the middle layer, blackberry sagefourth is 1343, frozen mold, frozen rag on other pours, Muir WoodsBeautiful job Old Glory....One is as nice as the other....I like the green one on the far right - "Muir Woods".......What kind of fragrance is that anyway? Such a beautiful name....hmmmm Trappeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldGlory Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Thanks for the kind words, Trappeur. I am still in my learning curve.Muir Woods is part green/pine type and part wood type, a custom blend, named in part for John Muir, a famous American naturalist and conservationist. It fits the blend perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The stearic will help with your retention load when you get a chance to get some, particularly in the 1343. I'd say you're off to a very good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldGlory Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Thanks Scented. Does the stearic effect the way the wax acts against the metal mold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Love them all OG!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Thanks Scented. Does the stearic effect the way the wax acts against the metal mold?Enough of it will. Primarily stearic will strengthen the wax and add opacity to the candle. The rustic formula is typically three heaping T of stearic to a pound of wax. It's the coolness of the mold and wax that helps cause the effect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldGlory Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 3 heaping Tablespoons of stearic per lb of wax? Thanks! I will pick some up next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricofAZ Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Fascinating post. Well, Berts is out of business but she did have some awesome forrest scents. And they did go well with higher than normal FO to wax ratios. If anyone can figure out what she did, please, let us all know. I'm guessing that forrest scents would work. As for color, think upside down. I can't find a video so I'll try to describe how to make it..... If you want a 3 inch wide by 4 1/2 inch tall piller (or any similar shape)... Use the right mold, load your wick and seal it on the closed end, use a wick holder on the open end. Make your wax with whatever additives you want and whatever piller wax you choose... Add your FO. Stir. Pour a half inch into the mould. Let it cool just a bit. Add some light blue dye to yer pot. Not much, keep it light. Pour a little more. Take your mold and tilt it one in all four directions. DOn't swirl it, just tilt it to you, away from you, to the right, to the left. Go have a piece of salami and relax for 2 minutes and repeat. THen darken the blue. Pour a bit more. Rotate the mold just a bit and tilt towards and away and right and left. THen add some darker color, green, Add more mix and repeat. Then darker color, brown, Repeat Then maybe get it really dark and repeat. If you do it right, it will be black or very dark brown on the bottom and white on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricofAZ Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Here's an old pic. Edited September 18, 2014 by EricofAZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricofAZ Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Those were palm wax, so a bit harsh. Paraffin and soy can respond better in the method I mentioned above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Here's an old pic. Like those! Esp. the Sea Mist and also the concept of the colors gradually getting darker as you go down. Is there any particular reason that the lighter color should be poured into the mold first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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