Wax....thoughts from you!

[pamlaura]

Used J50 but the place in Illinois I can pick up from doesn't carry the IGI 4636. So due to cost....I need to choose between IGI 4633 (J223) or IGI 4630 Harmony blend. Can I get some ideas????? on what you all think? I use Zinc wicks too. thanks so much Laura:undecided

[rjdaines]

I use 4630 and it is a good single pour wax and throws most FOs that I have tried. It can be a bit smokey with a large flamed, maybe the zincs will help but I haven't tried them.

[ksranch]

4630 & zincs work well for me

[Candybee]

J223 is almost identical to J50. The major differences are: J223 may need a repour but has a better hot throw. The J50 almost never needs a repour and has excellent throw but not quite as good as the J223.

Both are manufactured by the same company. The J50 is the newer version of the old J223 wax. It answered those who asked for a non-repour wax.

If you settle on the J223 you will get the one with the better hot throw. If your jars are 8oz or under repour isn't a problem. It becomes a problem for larger and larger jars. Eg.; a 16oz jar will probably need a repour. You can fix this with additives but at the moment I am drawing a blank what helps with the shrinkage, I'm thinking petrolatum or another wax.

Both are excellent waxes.

Edited October 1, 2013 by Candybee

[Vernie1]

4630 us a easy to work with one pour wax. IMO it works best with htp wicks. To me the zinc wicks smokes too much like someone said earlier. It doesn't shrink if it's poured at a temp around 180-170 and it throws pretty good.

[rjdaines]

I use HTP wicks with 4630 and occasionally ECO with thicker FOs.

[chuck_35550]

I started with J-50 and moved on to J-223 pretty quickly. I've tested 4630 and it was ok but it didn't ring my chimes. The Harmony blend is supposed to be the next step in that line of waxes but seems like the same old same old to my viewpoint. Using zincs are recommended because they are a cool burning wick and they don't drink up the wax like some other wicks but they mushroom and soot like crazy. I tried mixing with soy and never came up with a formula that was like the secret millionaire formula. I'd go 4630. HTH

Steve

[GoodScents]

I prefer 4630 with either HTP or Eco wicks. The J series doesn't seem to be as consistent as the 4630 has been for me.

[Ravens]

IGI 4633 (J 223) for me; zinc wicks for most FOs. :smiley2:

[Karen M]

I loved IGI 4633 (J223), it worked well with LX wicks, I switched to 6006, but I still love the 4633. The 4633 is better IMO than the J50.

[EricofAZ]

I've used all those waxes and if you are losing your J50 supplier, IMHO, the J223 is going to be closer than the Harmony. I never really ever saw much difference between 4633 and 4636. J223 was supposed to hold more FO than J5O but they were both about the same. I never tried J225, it was supposed to be better but I think it was short lived.

When I tested with 4630, I found myself diluting with paraffin of about the same melt point that had no additives and I was a bit happier with it. My recollection is that the Harmony is over saturated with additives, but that's just me.

I'm sure you know that the first two digits of the IGI line are supposed to group the wax closely to one another so there should be little in variation. We are talking about all 4600 series wax here.

Edited October 9, 2013 by EricofAZ

[DonnaC]

I live in IL too - could you tell me where you buy wax locally? I would love to find one.

Thank you!

[DonnaC]

I live in IL too. Could you tell me where you buy wax locally?

Thank you!

[barbaranj]

IGI 4633 (J 223) for me; zinc wicks for most FOs. :smiley2:

Same here when I used J223

Edited October 14, 2013 by barbaranj

[pita4294]

Dpswax.com is in by the city. Prices are slightly higher but worth it if you can drive there to pick up.