DonnaGA

Thank for the bump Carrie. I may have set a new record for killing a thread. lol.

Is there a difference between 100% hydrogenated soybean oils? 1)Do all 100% hydrogenated soybean oils have the same SAP value on lye calculators but give different properties to the soap? Example: hardness or curetime for hardness, bar color. 2)If using 100%HSBO from different sources, would the final results be the same but take a longer cure time for a hard bar. 3)Finally, If hydrogenation effects hardness, why do ingredient lists for solid shortening include partially-hydrogenated oils? Some background..... I would like to try Carrie’s soap recipe that has 37.5% of 100% hydrogenated soybean oil. http://www.candletech.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=bandbgallery;action=display;num=1114437312 My Sam’s Club carries large containers of 100% hydrogenated soybean oil (from ingredient list). The HSBO Carrie described is semi-solid (scoopable) and very white. Sam’s is pourable and yellow (like most oils you see on a grocers shelf). To confuse me even more: I found this…. (http://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1216) which includes… -------------- RobinInOR 07-29-2005 10:20 AM Mostly it's the degree of hydrogenation - how many double bonds are in the fatty acids. The fewer double bonds, the more hydrogenated, the harder the oil.....Hydrogenation doesn't affect the SAP value, supposedly, but might make a difference in the feel of the bar. Hydrogenation also extends the shelf life. ------------ And this…(http://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10975) which includes… ------------- Bunny 12-16-2005 12:48 AM Ok.. Saponified means it has been reacted with lye. Hydrogenated means it started out as a liquid oil and changed to be a solid. Like hydrogenated soybean oil (crisco) is treated soybean oil. Hopefully someone else has a better explanation.. Man I need to go to bed! lol! RobinInOR 12-16-2005 10:11 AM Hydrogenated oil is still the oil - it's been reacted to lose it's double bonds between carbon atoms (some liquid oils have 1, 2 or more double bonds). Makes it more stable, and more solid. ---------------- I could really use some expert advise. TIA, donna

SBDC-Small Business Development Center in your area is a great resource.

Carrie I agree. Make a template for the mold bottom.

I'm hooked. Spill.

HAHAHAHAHA Trish I made the same mistake. Fell in love with the name & description. OOB JS's Sunshine smells like a beauty shop. The neutralizer in a perm process maybe. Tried it in CPOP at .75 oz ppo. Don't smell a thing. Was a salt bar if that makes a difference. Next up to try are tarts & a pillar at 8% in CBL141. Let ya know what happens. I knew better & I did it anyway. donna

WOW!! Did you find this information online or did you speak to a wax rep?...or did you get your info from the website of a supplier?

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Hi Mary Ann, Sticking my nose in here.Are you using table salt in your spa bars? These ingredients look like the anti-clumping agents and iodine listed on a box of table salt. If so, pickling salt is pure salt with no additives. Would make your ingredint list sound less chemical. If not...oops, I'll butt out now. lol. hth.

Are you still looking for container for small batches of CP? Dollar General has a white 4X7X1.5 inch hard plastic container. Originally in the $1.00 value boxes, they were on sale for 50¢ each. I used for CPOP in a 175º oven, on a cookie sheet, for several hours. Took the heat OK. hth

Hi Sag, I have been looking for a corner box template. I have been unable to find a satisfactory template. Most are too complicated to cut & make in mass. There are some templates for sale but I have not checked them out. Here are a couple of sites that may help. http://bellecitysoapworks.com/packaging.html http://www.cpforbes.net/tuckbox/ (This one has the most potential for me.) What type box do you need? hth. Donna

Try a search using 'polypro bags'. You should get several hits with links. hth.

So what did the guys at CandleScience say when you told them about the shipping mix up? donna

Vanilla.

...the mold with the teflon liner is cheaper. Somebody messed up. donna Tube w/ Teflon Liner, 3' x 15' SKU: Tube3x15 Includes 2 end caps AND Teflon Liner Price: $21.50 Round Tube Mold Assembly, 3' x 15' SKU: RLM315 Price: $32.50

Hi Lindsay, What a great idea. I would love to see a picture of a finished soap from the silverware tray. Got any to post? TIA. Donna

Thank you.

....Has anyone soaped this using CPOP? I just made Eugenia's Kitchen Soap using this FO and substituted coffee for the water. Soap is dark,dark,dark. E said coffee made a dark soap...I was wondering if the SOG also contributed to the color. TIA, Donna

Found a ton of recipes for sprays using distilled water. Since the finished product is a liquid, are the ounces by volume? Thanks, Donna ps I feel really stupid asking this question.

I have made toast into cinnamon toast & toasted marshmallows on top of peanut butter crackers. I have used an iron & aluminum foil to make grilled cheese sandwiches.

Hobby Lobby has straight sided votive holders.

When you plug the cord into the pot does it feel loose? The clip area that holds the temp control could be sprung. Try pinching the clip to tighten. HTH. Donna

Got this from Rob in NY... metal tabletop picture holder

There is a Florida Soap gathering July 8. North Florida Soap Gathering http://www.northfloridacrafters.com Perhaps someone on the site could help you.

Since you want wax, wicks and FO...try this site....candle cauldron Try a search on excite.com for other useful sites. HTH.