As far as their oils not being up to snuff, I don't agree with that. I was just there yesterday again (they are 1/2 hour away from me so very convenient). When I was there I purchased 10 1 ouncers, I poured 3 of them last night, Daffodil, Buttery Almond Cookie and Cedar Garland. I must say they are right up there with some of the "big" boys. I had gotten Nutmeg and Ginger from them last week and made some testers which one I gave to my MIL to test for me, she had it burning this morning when I dropped off my boys before heading to work and the minute I walked in the fragrance literally smacked me in the face. I couldn't believe how strong it was, she said she only lit it 15 minutes prior to me getting there. I was talking to the receptionist at Fillmore yesterday and she had me smell about 15 new scents that aren't available yet, they test everything before they offer them, to make sure they will throw well. However, they test in soy. I use paraffin which very well could explain the why they are so strong. I am very happy with their oils thus far......but that's me Edit to say when I mean "big" boys I am referring to other FO suppliers