WaxFlower

Hi Stella...I've been eye ballin those CDN's. Just curious, do the CDN's burn hotter than the CD's?

I found the need to wick up with tins also. My last test with CD's in a 6oz tin was with a CD20...still wasn't impressed with the results. I've been reading how others suggest to wick down with tins because they get hotter than glass...I got discouraged and gave up on tins...at least for now. Hopefully I'll have better luck with my new little jars. Thanks again for your suggestions:smiley2:

Thanks Jenn, I have lots of CD's on hand, I'll try a 20 or 22 in this jar and see what happens. I have some 2 5/8" diam tins that I tried wicking with a CD18, using GB415 with candlescience pumpkin souffle at 7%...I had lots of hang up and the wick fizzled out during the second burn. I was okay with not getting pumpkin souffle wicked...when burning, it smelled burnt...yuck, made me gag...so I decided to make tarts with it instead...much better scent throw without the wick. Getting back to my 3 1/8" diam jar, if I need to double wick this jar with CD's, what would you sugest I start with? I have a feeling this jar might need to be double wicked...

I came accross these cute squatty little 5oz apoth jars that measure 3 1/8" diam. Has anyone had any luck single wicking this size jar using 415 pure soy? I'm not against double wicking if necessary. Any wicking suggestions as a starting point with this size jar would be greatly appreciated. TIA:)

I use gb415 for my tarts. For me, 415 produces the best scent throw both hot and cold. Even though 415 is a container wax, I don't have any trouble with this wax being too soft at all for tarts. I place mini baking liners into a mini muffin pan, pour my wax, let set, simple...no sticking to the molds. Have fun!

It could just be the amount of the wick wax coating that makes one batch of wicks appear larger or smaller.

Hi Susie, Don't know if this will help but I heard that candlescience frank & myrrh smells like shalimar.

I make candles and tarts with gb415. Candlescience frank & myrrh is one of my personal favorates and it throws awesome in my wax, I just love this scent, it's not too earthy, very hard to describe.

Ditto. I second the CCL, this one is great.

Candlescience cotton blossom is a nice clean scent, a bit floral but nice.

Keep trying and try not to get discouraged. I'm a perfectionist and I used to go crazy trying to get the tops of my tarts and candles to look perfect. Soy is picky and your finished product can vary with hot/cold weather, humidity etc. I've learned to accept uglier tops as long as the scent throw is good, after all, tarts melt down anyway.

Hi BG, Try pouring at a cooler temp, around 95-110 or when cloudy.

I use GB 415 for both container candles and tarts. I prefer to stick with one wax for both. The hot and cold throw is great with this wax.

You could always buy the tabs with the 3mm collar and make your own wick assemblies if you can't find a supplier who sells the HTP 31 already tabbed with the 3mm collar.

Welcome to the crazy world of soy I've been making candles and tarts with soy wax of all types, blends and brands and I keep going back to GB415. What I have noticed about the 415 is that when you do find a scent that is compatible with this wax, it will throw like crazy, both hot and cold. It's the nature of the beast, some scents just won't throw in soy. I do have to say that I've had much better luck with scent throw since I've been using fo's from CandleScience.

Hi. It depends on the fo, some fo's just aren't compatable with soy and just won't throw in soy. I have used anywhere from 3% to 10% pp, depending on the scent. Soy is picky and even if I really like the fo, if it doesn't throw at 8%, I just won't use that fo.

Geek, I knew you were one of the candle experts after reading on this forum for quite sometime. I have to admit, I rolled my eyes when I read this thread before seeing who posted it. I thought you had lost your mind! Welcome back!

Hi Casey, With such a variety of soy waxes/blends out there, it's hard to say what soy is commonly being used. Some individuals create their own blend and what works for one, might not work for another. I worked with GB416 tart wax for a while and wasn't happy with it. Now I use GB415 which is the same wax as MC's soy 125. I use this wax for my tarts and containers, it has awesome cold and hot throw characteristics. Because 415 is a container wax, I make my tarts in mini muffin liners so I don't have to worry about molds and mold release, drop them in cello baggies and I'm good to go. Hope this helps

Hi caz, Like deb said, get yourself a candle making thermometer if you don't already have one. Another candle making necessity would be a good digital scale for measuring your wax, oils, etc. A thermometer for monitoring your heat/pouring temps and a good digital scale for accurate measurements of wax, fo's, etc. are both necessary to have when making candles/tarts.

Hi sim. Since I don't know what wax you are using, I can't be of much help. If you contact your wax supplier, they should be able to tell you what the fo load is for your particular wax and also supply you with other info that you will need to know about your wax, heat/pouring temps etc... I use gb415 for tarts, no dye, no additives and fo at 5-9% (depending on the scent). I get an awesome throw both hot and cold with most scents. Have fun!!!

Thanks for all of your replies, I appreciate all of your suggestions. Looks like CD's and ECO's are good for scent throw in this wax. I'll give them a try. The most important thing for me when it comes to candles is scent throw, the rest follows.

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I've been making tarts with GB415 and those little things throw like crazy both hot and cold. Is there any way that a properly wicked candle could give you the same type of HT results? I recently read through the wicksunlimited website and I'm thinking that maybe I've chosen the wrong type of wicks for this wax. I have tested LX and 700 series, neither one of these wicks give me the same type of HT that I get from my tarts. On the Wicksunlimited website they say that in general, wicks with high liquid flow characteristics are more compatible and successful with vegetable-based fuels.The plant-derived wax is more viscous when liquified, requiring an unimpeded conduit for maximizing capillary action. Which wick/wicks fit into this category? They also say that non-cored wicks usually will allow a more predictable and consistant flow of molten wax because they have less material density in their total surface area than cored wicks.The exceptions to the rule are cored wicks that are directional, since they are engineered to promote liquid flow in one direction more than the other. Is the RRD the only wick in this category? Also, if the viscosity of soy and other natural waxes requires a hotter wick, how do you go about choosing a wick that will burn hot enough to handle viscous waxes without the wick burning too hot and causing the fragrance to break down? My methods are basic. Heat 415 wax to 175, add FO at 170-175, stir slowly and pour when cool & cloudy. I don't use dyes or any additives, just wax and fo. I figured that if this method works for tarts then it should work for wicked candles right? I forgot to mention that I'm using 6oz tins (2 5/8" diam) and 3" diam glass jars. Any suggestions, opinions or advise on wicking this wax would be greatly appreciated! TIA for any replies.

I second CS Apple & Maple Bourbon, this one reminds me of a caramel apple.

This is where I get my 6oz footed tins. http://www.sks-bottle.com/340c/fin7i.html