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I have been searching and can't find how much steric to add to a lb of M&P. From what I have researched steric will make the M&P last longer but I need a starting point. Anyone have suggestions for me ? I did find a thread on using salt water and adding 2 tablespoons to a lb of M&P, has anyone tried this method?? Did it work ? thanks nitra

Ahhhh, well ty Robin, matter of fact I just saw some 5x orange. Now I don't have to ask what that is too.

I saw this recipe for gardeners soap and it said to use orange EO. On the brambleberry website there are 2 diff kinds of orange, which do ya use for M&P ? What is the diff between the 2 ??? Orange - Organic Essential Oil Distillation Method: Cold Pressed Country of Origin: USA Botanical Name: citrus sinensis Orange Valencia Essential Oil Orange essential oil is a very light oil. Orange is a light and airy mood enhancer that blends well with almost anything and is great in room spritzers and pillow sprays. Distillation Method: Cold Pressed Country of Origin: USA Part: Peel Botanical Name: Citrus sinensis 'Valencia' Warnings: Known photosensitizer - don't use in the sun or in lip balms. can either one of these be used in M&P or any kind of soap for that matter ? thanks nitra

ummm if something did happen and a lawsuit come about, who would actully get sued??

until she gets a lawsuit slapped on her..........i would be scared to death to be the one selling this to a 12 yo. heck i'm 48 and im having a hard time just diving in, i am wanting classes. oh well maybe i am over reacting

very interesting link candleman. wonder how long that waiting list is -------------------------------- I tried to find glass baby bottles for this same idea about 6 months ago before my granddaughter was born, you simply can't find glass anywhere, not around here anymore. It is a cute idea.

don't hesitate to order it, its awesome !!! i ordered the hemp/jojoba cuz she sent me a sample also with my lotion order.

yea thats what i thought but might be a reason to get away from home for 2 days too lol. I found a couple websites in the indy area that make soap i am almost tempted to email them and ask if they give classes, worse they can say is NO

Indygirl, are you looking for a class too or do you already know how to make soap? Might be fun if a few of us could do it together.

thanks for the info Ruby i just might pm you if i can't find anything in indianapolis, i can't believe i have come up empty handed, indy is NOT a small city by no means, you would think i could find something on the internet.

pm'd ya sep

Great !!! What part of Indiana are you from Tee ?

Thanks for the information, I was hoping I didn't have to travel that far both of those places are about 4 hrs from me. I will keep searching. ETA: Just thought I would add---it doesn't have to be a convention type of thing it could be a small homebased operation, just someone who is very experienced thanks

Ok, I have been reading up on CP/HP soaps. I have come to the conclusion I need to go to a class or workshop. Usually I just dive right in and figure something out. So here is my question. I have searched the net to try and find classes/workshops in Indiana and there just isn't anything coming up on a search. Does anyone know of any ?? Anything within an hours drive. I am an hour west of Indianapolis and I figured surely there would be something in Indy but I sure am not finding it. Anyone have ideas or knowledge about this ??? thanks annettra

those are so cute !!!! very creative idea

ummm yea EXPENSIVE to hire lawyers, like i said before my best friend is an atty and he loves corp law so yes, i know what he has gotten paid on a few cases. But what I can't seem to get in my head is this liability is pretty much worthless so why pay for it. I know everyone wants to put out a safe product but this is the year of 2000 like someone said earlier, ppl are just wanting the easy way out and that keeps sticking in my mind, maybe to over-protect myself ???? Make sense or am I just babbling here ???

I think so too, i looked hi & low for a company that sold SFIC M&P.....peaks was the closest I could find, only thing about peaks, so much other stuff on their website I would like to try thanks everyone for giving me some ideas

I totally agree with everything you guys are saying however this is what else has me concerned. With liability if you get sued its basically worthless, with product liability its pretty much useless too, true its better than liability but the way my insurance man explained it IF you get sued, they sue the business & they can possibily take your personal belongs ie: house if it went that far...IF is a big word for a small word. ANYWAY he said the only way to be completely sure of not losing anything but the business is to be incorporated. sighhhh Has anyone been told this ????

Ok my insurance man just called me again, the insurance he quoted me was for liablility not product liability well heck, if i understand this correctly in my opinion that is bascially worthless, i told him to check into the product liability cuz i just wanted to see how much it cost and i think thats what i need NOT liability. he suggested i go talk to my atty too. He also stated thats the difference between an LLC and a corporation. He also mentioned its going to be sky high. I guess I will find out huh. Oh yea, he also said I should have disclaimers on all products but should check with an atty I started working on insurace a couple months but backed off it cuz I wasn't selling to the general public at that time and still not but reading all the insurance questions on the board lately I figured it would take awhile to sort it all out to figure out exactly what was going on......sigh,,,the wonderful world of insurance and attys, I suppose I am not too bad off my best friend is an atty and my insurance man is another but damn, every time you turn around its another huge expense. ETA: SO-SOY is this for product liability ? or just the liability ?

I am still working on my insurance and I just talked to my agent today and he wanted labels on everything I was planning on selling, soaps, lotions, lipbalms. He didn't ask for a warning label for the candles but I will supply that just so I don't have to do it later. He even wanted the ingredients list on M&P soaps. He also told me that when I decide to make CP/HP soaps that the lye would make a difference. I haven't even crossed that bridge of making CP/HP soaps yet so I have no idea what ingredients would be on that. I dunno, like I said, I am still working on it.

I'm getting ready to put in an order for M&P from peaks. I know I am going to try the GM but thought I would try a couple others as well. Any favorites you would suggest ? thanks

I didn't use an elastic string/cord. I used a ribbon for the hearts and a hemp string (its thin not like jute) for the cowboy boots and trees. Not sure what I am using for my angels yet

Nice site kevin Welcome to the board

Those are cute, you did a great job

I agree give Lindsay a call, wonderful to work with