I have to agree with both of them. When I first had interest in candle making I researched the internet till my fingers bled (ok well not really but you get the idea). That's actually how I found this board. Then I spent many hours upon hours eating lunch in front of the computer reading the archives. I had a notebook full of notes I had taken, bookmarks out the wazoo and then I finally broke down and bought a kit. After the kit, the rest is still history in the making lol. I tested many waxes, containers, wicks, fo's, colors etc.