@CandyinVa...thanks I guess I never thought of that, that is a big difference. @darrel...No I never tried to refill. I guess I thought you couldn't do that with laser cartridges, isn't it more of a powder? @luinousglow...always glad to meet a fellow Floridian, what part of the state are you in? More great advice, half price works for me, next time and I hope it will be a long time before I need to get more ink I'm definitley going to search around. I needed the ink right away today, have a show on Sunday and needed labels, no time to ship.