I'm w/ Carebear... Disc tops are cheap, they look nice and are convenient to use... Foamers are nifty and exciting...... that's what I use for my childrens line as well. This is what we use in our capital bldg... less waste and less mess. I like the ellegance (sp?) of pumps but they can be messy... aluminum caps. Hmm... expensive right? Iwas looking at these, but not worth the hastle and price... www.sks-bottle.com is where I looked. I get my disc bottles from specialtybottle.com and foamers from Forsoapmakers.com