Scented

As for testing HT, yes, always wait 12-24 hours just to give the fragrance and wax time to do their coupling so to speak for pillar wax.

HL's wax used to be around 133-136. It wasn't Yaley way back when. I don't use the wax any more to tell you any differently and the closest store is 60 miles away so I can't go look (good thing or I'd spend money on things I shouldn't lol!) On the Steric, it's common place to add 2T per pound of wax (that's just to help with the weeping of the fragrance oil.) I use 3T per pound regularly. You might try a mix of your original amount of vybar plus 2T of steric per pound of wax too. Let me know how your trials go Jason.

I'll have to remember it. Gapped them.

I told you though I don't order just one bottle from anywhere lol.

I didn't take Sharon's comment as rude at all. Honestly, she's right, but you have to live through all of these debates about these waxes to reach that point. Things just materialize as gospel, and a lot of stuff does, from uneducated and paranoid folk trying to make a buck. I know I give a hoot about it and I know I'm fighting a losing battle trying to keep the public educated. I'll still do it, because I'm not bashing anything. I still give out information sheets if necessary with links to educate themselves on the NCA site. I don't fuss about other people until they pitch a tent next to me, keep the lids on their containers and take credit for the smell coming out of my tent or tell their customers that the bubble gum candle is made with essential oil. It's probably why I stay in production and not sales, because I tend to scoff somewhere between a whisper and my normal voice when I hear that crap. Anyway, I think I strayed. I still say focus on your product and how it performs and don't worry about what Jack and Jill are doing, because they will fall down that hill eventually.

Not your fault. Their labeling shouldn't need a magnifying glass to find honestly.

Not a doofus. I use liquids and I love to experiment with what I can get. I know that doesn't help you one bit does it? I also try to pay attention to what other colors those create without having to mix that color. Hope that made sense, but if I use a hot pink and pull away the side of a candle some (and I do this from time to time) I know that adding yellow in there will get me orange. Except in these I didn't pull any of the sides away.

I've seen both kind of waxes at Hobby Lobby. They carry pretty much the same thing Michaels does. Your package should tell you what it is. If not, take it back to them and tell them to inform the public better as to what they are buying.

Underneath the wax it's fingernailing, but looks cosmos like. Snowflaky appearance is the mottling. Perhaps you didn't use enough steric, but if you have oil on the sides of your mold, I'd tend to think it wasn't fingernailing either. Fingernailing looks like fingernails, but they are hallow ovals and trapped air. Just how much additive did you use, because you want your FO to blend with the wax and generally it doesn't separate from the wax.

Well there is a hint of strawberry in it and a heavy musk and it's just flat sexy.

I wanted to say a hell of a lot less than you and then I counted -- 25 isn't a hell of a lot less lol!

Well my thought on the scent (sandalwood vanilla was the one) is that skimped big time on it. I was there for four hours and smelled nothing. As my hairdresser put it, she wants a product that will scent the room and that was not an overly large room. I wasn't aware this stuff ever turned into a powder. I'll have to stick my head into her shop and ask. Several years ago there was a company that made these where you scoop the stuff out of a jar. I'm wondering if that was stuff made with gelatin. It was pretty smooth and I believe it was used in a warmer. The ingredients were never revealed and I didn't buy a jar, but I think I want to experiment with this stuff too. The stuff at my hairdresser's when poured was white and about the consistency of conditioner but a little runnier than that.

Well I give a shit, because the neverending cycle of false information lol. My hairdresser asked me the other day about the cancer and paraffin thing as it was starting to freak her out and told me it was coming from someone locally who makes those ear candle things. I told her to tell her supplier she's full of shit and should not be spreading the bs around. Then I told her I'd stop buying from someone who isn't truthful in their sales either. You can make your product and talk only of your product while others find some avenue to try to sell theirs through false advertising and you can do it in a way that does not put down your competition and their "type" of wax or business while setting the public straight too.

It helps bind the fragrance to the wax and does improve the wax such as in hardness, increases opacity and inhibits mottling. I believe the answer to your question is no. It allows you to use more scent in the wax and keep it in the candle without the weeping or the mottled look though. I haven't used vybar in ages, but I'm back to experimenting with it.

Now see did you ever try the strawberry from Solas? Unfortunately he went OOB years back, but that was a nice, thick scent. Haven't been in the hunt for a strawberry since. I do stick with the strawberry musk available through AH/RE though. It's not a straight strawberry, but oh my it's good.

He's all yours. You will find him charming and maybe witty. He needs to know the person to be really witty about them lol. Tell you what though, he's all yours for the molding and shaping and to do what you need done (except if it's something you have to explain to him on how it works ... like electronics, you might want to pass on that lol.) He loves that kind of thing, honestly. OK I can't access the blog as in sign in and comment. Once we figure out how we're going and when we're leaving then we might be able to stop and get something along the way ... egads I can't believe I said that lol! Except I think we're going to want to go to NG or WSP or both, but not making a commitment to pick up orders just yet. I know we'll stop if we need something If you talk to us nicely, we just might do the NG pick up for you. I know I am wanting to drive up Tabatha's way just to get to go to Melt and see how she's doing.

There was a peach pie filling scent out years ago and I cannot remember who had it. I'm forever in search of: A vanilla that sells (we can't give it away so stopped carrying it) A chocolate that sells (we can't give it away even mixed and I love the chocolate patchouli mix) Pumpkin -- (same as above, except Lone Star's Butternut Pumpkin is awesome) Perhaps I should be in search of customers for the above, but I'm not. We just moved on to something else. Now what I'm really looking for: A killer Vanilla Sandalwood. I haven't exactly loaded up on the fragrance, but the AH/RE one that I have is ho hum. I haven't tried out NG's, but will. And I never did try what SS had. A killer Sandalwood. Must be rich and heavier than what's out there. While I absolutely love Red Santal that SS used to carry, I don't love the price, says the fool who invested in a pound of sandalwood from Lebermuth and is afraid to use it (actually it's reserved for soap only because of its cost) so really I'm looking for one not mixed with anything else that would work in wax. Seems there were more ... oh yea, once upon a time it was peanut butter, but I threw all of what I had out. I went in search of iced oatmeal raisin cookies too and have a few of that, but just wasn't satisfied I guess. I'm sure my list is longer than what's been listed, but I'm brain cramping.

I'd like to see this mottling under the surface. With vybar, that kills mottling so I'm wondering if you have fingernailing instead.

He told me he'd do your MC ... he loves that stuff Abs.

Oh Abbie he loves attention and would be your master of ceremony, but you have to tell him who everyone is. He's currently melting in the heat at a show, but I can ask him to do it for you.

The thing about Bob Sherman's book is that it isn't like the typical books. It covers all the aspects, gives you b&w pictures, a chapter on formulating and rates the projects covered. Going to say that there are some projects in there that you should think about making with wax substitutes instead of the real thing. A fun, fun, fun book is The encyclopedia of Candlemaking Techniques. Unless you're going for cut and curl, I wouldn't waste $ on the other books unless you want inspiration from what you see inside. You should be able to find that book on Amazon or Ebay too.

Straight it woul be very low, but with additives you could get it up more. Since you have it, try it at 1 ounce pp and see how it goes, but you still need the additives.

Perhaps something else can make the gel, because we put the Sandalwood vanilla in her warmer and didn't smell much. She said it was too light as it was. She wants fragrance! Yet she still was using this stuff lol. But a gel idea might be fun. The bottles were great and marked off the oz on the side too. It is a neat idea for a product, but it's gotta smell up a place!

And Sharon that's exactly the product.

Yes, in a bottle and poured into the warmer. It comes out white. I saw it while getting my hair done and getting nosey since the gal had a warmer going. She wants something stronger with the oils. Doesn't want tarts and so I looked at the bottle and had never heard of using carbomer with it. Even forgot I posted this thread. Egads.