After racking my brain (which is a chore for me ) I called pourette and placed the order. Should have them by the 17th of Aug, and yes I'll have to come up with something for the water bath. I didn't measure it but I have a big aluminum tub (used to be used for ice & beer ) that I use at the shop and it might be long enough for the 24" but I know the 12" will fit so that one is not a problem. My customer called me back later and now he wants me to make a huge vase type hurricane using my dipping vat, this should be fun. Thanks for all your help and if you think of anything else let me know. Once I get the vase hurricane done I'll post a pic (only if it turns out LOL) Thanks again.