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Something happened, I can't recall what, and I had to leave town right as I was going to report my results. So thank you for reminding me. The results were not what I expected, the temperature had no effect on the curing process. The candles burned the same, and I couldn't tell a difference in the CT or HT.
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I thought I should update where I am with the Lab & Co FOs. I posted the four FO I had chosen in a previous post, and I ordered 11 more FOs to try. Of those 11 I picked three that I am extremely happy with. Gardenia + Grapefruit Iris + Ginger Blossom Kakadu Plum + Amber My absolute favorite is the iris and ginger blossom, but the others are all outstanding. A few other observations; in 4627 these FOs need at least two weeks cure time. I gave them a couple of days when I did my wick testing and I noticed that they got stronger with each passing day. The next thing I noticed is that they required much smaller wicks than my other FO. Of the seven FOs I am using I only use two different wicks, and they are just one size different on my wick list. I have made properly wicked candles with each of the FOs and the only way I could be happier is if they cost less. I have achieved what I set out to do, it took me three years, but I’m there now. I’m not sure what to do next. I might try wicking my 11oz tureens with these FOs, but I promised Trappeur I was going to try and double wick some 22oz tureens, and that’s a promise I intend to keep, no matter what it cost me.
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Are you ready to launch a candle company?
Forrest replied to TallTayl's topic in Business Side of Things
He had everything he wanted Until it all Turned out to be a job Neil Young -
I switched from 4630 to 4627 and I believe there is a difference.4627 is softer and seems to have better HT. They say it can take a higher FO load, but I haven't tried that yet.
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If your Paraffin has ever even thought about dating a soy wax it is two week cure time
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Do wicks come from the same supplier?
Forrest replied to candleshiba's topic in General Candle Making Discussions
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Do wicks come from the same supplier?
Forrest replied to candleshiba's topic in General Candle Making Discussions
I think all my wicks are manufactured by Lucifer in Hades; they’re just distributed by different companies. -
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Forrest replied to karinz40's topic in General Candle Making Discussions
The jury is still out on that one -
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Forrest replied to karinz40's topic in General Candle Making Discussions
Here is something I learned from listening to TallTayl (TT) watch your flame, it will tell you if your candle is over wicked. Look at your candle an hour after you light it, the flame shouldn't be too tall, flickering, or sooting. If it is you probably need to wick down. The best advice I can give you is pay attention to TT, if it weren't for her I would have given up candle making a long time ago; I not sure if I should be grateful or angry about that, but there it is. -
I need to get rid of 30 Lbs. of 6006 so I don't get that look every time I buy new wax. I could buy my other daughter a melter and divide it between them.
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That had a different meaning when the Wicked Witch of the West said it. My situation is I’ve taken my candle making in a different direction, which has left me with a supply of 6006 wax and FOs that I need to do something with. My daughter in Texas asked for some melts, and as she is about to provide me with a new grandson making some melts is the least I can do, and boy will she be getting a lot of melts. In addition to my 6006 I have some rock hard paraffin I bought for making melts, 4625 maybe. I have some clamshells I could make melts in, but making them in a foil lined pan and cutting them into chunks seems more efficient, I could use some advice on this point. If the pan is the best idea how much wax should I use for a 9x13 pan? My next question is should I increase my FO percentage? I normally use 7%, but as I’m not wicking this wax why not 9% or even 10%? Any pointers or advice would be appreciated. I’m home alone, I have a three day weekend, and I need to get rid of 40 Lbs. of 6006.
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Forrest replied to karinz40's topic in General Candle Making Discussions
I have some 4oz tins, but I doubt I have a wick small enough for them. I thought about getting some bigger tins, but my next project is 4627 in 11oz tureens with the Lab & Co FOs. I believe I'm ready to make the candles I've always wanted to make. -
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Forrest replied to karinz40's topic in General Candle Making Discussions
I think so, I use 8oz tins with a 3" opening, usually purchased from Flaming. -
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Forrest replied to karinz40's topic in General Candle Making Discussions
I used IGI 6006 for a long time and 4630 for a while. Now I use 4627 in my tins to get better HT. I looked back at my data and the biggest CD wick I put in a tin was a CD6. I would recommend you start small and work your way up. I find it easier to work my way up than to work my way down. Most of the tins I’m doing now have wicks smaller than a CD5, but the FOs I’m using seem to like small wicks. -
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Forrest replied to karinz40's topic in General Candle Making Discussions
I’ll throw my 2 cents in here. I have several 8oz tins that I consider to be as close to perfectly wicked as I’m going to get, and after six burns of three hours each none of them had a FMP. My goal is to have the smallest wick that will burn all the wax in the candle. Having some unmelted wax on the walls of my containers seems to help my HT. Your second question is a matter of preference and the subject of much debate. My opinion is that it is good to establish a baseline wick, but you’ll still need to test every different FO. I did that with my old wax, but with the advent of the wickectomy I felt I didn't need to with my new wax. -
Well, if it happens to you also then I feel sure it isn't something I did wrong.
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A couple of years ago I gave my daughter a candle in an 11oz tureen made with 6006 wax and 7% White Tea and Ginger FO. I had inked the container so she used it as a decoration and didn’t burn it. Every time I have been to her house I have opened the lid and smelled it. The CT was very strong. This trip, when I opened the lid the candle was sweating FO. I checked another one I had made at the same time for my granddaughter and it was doing the same thing. They haven’t gotten too hot or cold. Has anybody seen this before?
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What I would do is to continue testing until the very end, if at that point you still have a lot of wax on the sides I would wick up. But others here know more than I do when it comes to jars.
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soy wax question on cure time from a newbie :)
Forrest replied to karicandlelady's topic in General Candle Making Discussions
Curing is a process that is on going for a long time. One month seems to be a time when the candles are reasonably mature, but nothing has HT like a year old soy candle. -
In my very limited testing it still bent slightly. I'm hoping that the bend will rotate as it burns down. In a previous test I got an off center MP to rotate 180 degrees
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I like HTP wicks, but the bending has always been a problem for me. The two solutions I have seen are putting the wick off center, or twisting them. I have tried twisting them with limited success, but I came up with an idea that seems to work for me. I hold the wick by the tab and the top and heat the part of the wick that will be in the wax with a heat gun. As soon as the wax coating on the wick gets soft I gently twist the wick and take it away from the heat. The wax hardens quickly and the wick stays twisted. The wick might untwist when you pour hot wax on it, but in my case I have a wick sticker on the bottom and a wick holder on the top so this has not been a problem. I have done this twice now and both times had good results both times.
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These are 8oz tins with CD6 wicks in 4627 and a 7% FO load. This is the end of the first 3 hour burn. I’m thinking they are all over wicked and I should go ahead with the wickectomy, but I wanted some expert opinions first. I could go to a CD5, HTP93 or LX14.
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These oils are my new obsession. I made four candles today and still have 11 new samples to put into wax, I smelled a few of them today and they were amazing. Yesterday I tried the Black Current and Rhubarb with some Tangerine Dream and came up with the perfect fruit blend.
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I didn't get much pear out of the Pear and Honey, I'm going to try and blend it with another pear FO. I did get the rose in the Rose patchouli and amber. I just got my new order today, I can't wait to make some candles.